benihana

msg:853161 | 3:55 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
paint shop pro. never used it but have heard good things and it should do what your after. ben
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jsinger

msg:853162 | 4:03 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Yep, I use PSP and it can do all those and much more for about $90 as I recall. You can buy PSP For Dummies too.
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creative craig

msg:853163 | 4:08 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I have to go along with the other Paint Shop Pro, I have not used it for a while because I got a free copy of Fireworks, but for a slightly cheaper editor it is superb :)
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PatrickDeese

msg:853164 | 4:09 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Adobe Elements comes packaged with a lot of digital cameras. It is pretty basic.
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Timotheos

msg:853165 | 4:10 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I'll put a plug in for Ulead's PhotoImpact for $90. Years ago when I needed the same thing I chose this product over PSP.
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limbo

msg:853166 | 4:13 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I thought that both win2k and XP came with a picture viewer? As far as I can remember you can crop, rotate and resize images in there? although I am not sure about the level of optimising. Photoshop elements is an excellent stripped down and very cheap version of the origianl - not sure if it is the same as adobe elements - I would guess it is. [edited by: limbo at 4:15 pm (utc) on Oct. 22, 2003]
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PatrickDeese

msg:853167 | 4:15 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
My mistake - maybe it is called Photoshop Elements.
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topr8

msg:853168 | 4:19 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>>sometimes need to do very simple image editing ie crop and optimise for web (nothing else). if the above is truly all you want then ... ulead smart saver pro (60 usd) you can do very basic editing such as crop, but it has the most fantastic idiotproof/visual image compression/optimisation and the compression is sweet too. i use it as my tool of choice for web grafics imo for compression it beats all other products hands down (for editing its rubbish but if cropping and resizing dimensions is all you need then thats ok)
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georgeek

msg:853169 | 4:25 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Snap! Timotheos I use Ulead's PhotoImpact too. kapow take a look at irfanview [irfanview.com]. It's high quality, easy to use and free.
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Gibble

msg:853170 | 4:27 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
What about the Gimp?
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creative craig

msg:853171 | 4:28 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Irfanview, is good for free quick and easy cropping and also for making .ico images for when people bookmark you.
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littleman

msg:853172 | 4:29 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>What about the Gimp? Yeah, the GIMP is quite good.
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kapow

msg:853173 | 5:41 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Thank you all - for a great response (as usual). Thats quite a few for me to go and review. It must: - Be available online. - Windows OS. - Crop image. - Optimise for web. - Less than $100. Does the Gimp work on Windows?
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figment88

msg:853174 | 5:51 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I´ll second what criag said. I just downloaded a copy of irfranview at a web cafe to do some quick editing. For resizing, cropping, and pasting multiple images together it rocks. The one major problem is selecting the transparency color for gif´s.
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Gibble

msg:853175 | 5:59 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Yes, there is a version of gimp for windows. The only disadvantage is because of a patent it won't save gif files (but their is a download to patch that and allow you to save gif files )
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Marcia

msg:853176 | 6:01 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0) |
PSP is great, and I swear by Irfanview. It does an incredible job of reducing jpeg file sizes. Another one that's been around for ages, is very reasonable and has always handled transparencies for GIFs well is Lview Pro.
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