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newbie problems w/ jpg cruncher
sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 3:46 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi...first post here.
I have read alot and gained lots of wisdom but I am still very very new at all of this.

I did an analysis of my site and it is loading too slowly.
I got the jpg cruncher and proceeded to crunch all the pictures on the site, reloaded all the NEW files to the site and published. I did another post-crunch analysis and it really shows no difference in file sizes and speed, in fact the one file that I deleted is still showing up in the analysis.

what am i doing wrong? what part did I not understand?

 

korkus2000

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Msg#: 546 posted 3:48 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey sillyme welcome to WebmasterWorld,

Have you cleared the images out of your browsers cache? It sounds like your browser is using your cached images.

tedster

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Msg#: 546 posted 3:54 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, sillyme.

I have things like that happen all the time - and it's usually something basic. If you KNOW that jpegcruncher created smaller images for you, then...

1. Did you name them correctly?
2. If you changed the filename, did you also change the src= attribute in the <img> tags?
3. If you changed the image tag attributes, did you also upload the new version of the HTML?
4. Did you actually upload the crunched images, or did you somehow grab the originals?
5. How did you do the analysis?

gsx

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Msg#: 546 posted 4:06 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

6. JPEG cruncher has not changed the case of the files (eg from .jpg to .JPG) - some programs do this and some servers are case sensitive.

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 4:19 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

ok.....forgot about the cache thing...cleared it, ran the test again.....same results.

ok...went back and tested some of the links on the page to see if I was calling the right images...I was.
I even "misnamed" one (ON PURPOSE)and it turned into a box with a red X...cleared the cache again and redid the test WITH THE RED X box....

same bloody results!

what gives?
I am using the website analysis from sitesolutions

is there a cache problem somewhere?
or am I still so new I am not clearing mine correctly?
InternetExplorer, tools, internet options, delete files,etc

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 6:24 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

alright.....I went back and did everything all over again...
and I want to put my fist thru the monitor...
there is no change,

even the webmasterworld site size tool shows the largest image to be 9660.......that would be the LOGO on my page but I have crunched it and uploaded the new one. deleted the old one. fixed the html parts and VOILA~ still showing largest file is 9660.

korkus2000

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Msg#: 546 posted 6:27 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Are you behind a firewall? Do you think your server maybe caching it?

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 6:39 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

i am such a newbie...
hmmm I have a firewall on my puter....
would THAT cause it?

as you can tell I feel like a kindergartner in a college crowd here....

I have a Yahoo store and I have a firewall on my computer.

I have crunched, cleared cache, uploaded files..and deleted old ones.

I want to really dig in to the pages and make them better...but the toys dont seem to work! :(

[edited by: sillyme at 6:50 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2003]

korkus2000

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Msg#: 546 posted 6:46 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

It could be caching. What kind of firewall is it?

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 6:51 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

norton personal

korkus2000

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Msg#: 546 posted 6:54 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Have you tried uploading one of the new graphics under a different name and seeing if it got there. Then try pointing the html code to the new name and see what happens.

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 7:01 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

<quote>Have you tried uploading one of the new graphics under a different name and seeing if it got there. Then try pointing the html code to the new name and see what happens. </quote>

yes....that is one of the things I did...I had renamed alot of the "new" files and uploaded them.
the LOGO gif I played with is now crunched and called pagelogo.jpg and it shows up as the correct logo.
when i run the sitesolutions test it still shows it as 9660!
I went into the html part and put a couple extra characters into the pagelogo.jpg to make it pagelogo33d.jpg and it showed a broken link (red x in a box)
ran the test....still 9660

I also had a link to a certain product that I deleted today completely from the site and IT is still showing up on the test.
"bemyvalentine.jpg"

korkus2000

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Msg#: 546 posted 7:06 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

You have caching somewhere.

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 7:07 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

LOL....thanks......

where? LOL?
dang this is tough!

korkus2000

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Msg#: 546 posted 7:09 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

What results do you get using our websize checker?
[searchengineworld.com...]

is it different?

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 7:16 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

although it has reduced the size SOME since I crunched a few jpgs.....it still is tellin me that the largest file is 9660
and when I run the jpg cruncher and pull up the original logogif it says 9660 so I am ASSUMING that it is talking about that file.....but I no longer have THAT there..

yes..the valentine flowers are history....now a plant in yellow boots takes its place......but the bemyvalentine is still showing up in the sitesolutions test.

I am checking with my fellow yahoo owners to see if they know about Yahoo caching.....and how long...

sillyme

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Msg#: 546 posted 8:42 pm on Feb 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

yuk.....no one knows...

this is gonna be a long process if I make a tiny tweak and need to wait days until I see if the tweak worked or not.

cant make too many tweaks cuz I wont remember which tweak did what.....

sheesh!

mivox

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Msg#: 546 posted 7:29 pm on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Talk to your ISP and your site host, if one of them have on-site caching, there isn't much you can do but wait it out...

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