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Optimizing Graphics
Looking for a good program
MatthewHSE




msg:855039
 3:44 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

What is a good program for optimizing images to shrink the file size, yet not sacrifice too much quality? I've heard that there are better programs than PhotoShop; unfortunately the source I heard that from couldn't remember the names of any of them. What does anyone here use to optimize graphics?

 

defanjos




msg:855040
 5:35 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I use Ulead SmartSaver.
It works very well
It works as a Photoshop plugin also, which is very handy.

yowza




msg:855041
 5:54 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I use Fireworks. I don't know if it's the best, but it works better than Photoshop in this respect.

garry




msg:855042
 7:00 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

For a good little 900kb powerful image viewer / manipulator program, try Irfanview.

tedster




msg:855043
 7:31 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I now get better results with Photoshop 7 (actually ImageReady, the bundled companion) than I do with Fireworks -- but they are both excellent.

I thought PhotoShop 6 compression algorithms were a bit weaker than Fireworks, especially for jpg, but Adobe took a big leap with version 7. I haven't found a need for any other plug-in or program in a long time.

In fact, some of the results that Adobe now gives blow my mind - especially the way it handles sharp lines and high contrast edges in a jpg.

jbinbpt




msg:855044
 9:42 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Irfanview is a real gem and you cannot beat the price. It also has excellent scanner support.

limbo




msg:855045
 10:05 am on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Another vote for Fireworks Here

The export Preview command lets you remove and compact data to your wish and select the file type for the image.

It resizes images well but can be limited if you image is needed for print.

Ta

balinor




msg:855046
 12:34 pm on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm going to have to vote for ImageReady, especially the newest version. Excellent compression without losing image quality. Ifranview is a great viewer and resizer, but unless I am missing something, it doesn't optimize for the web.

krieves




msg:855047
 3:21 pm on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Another vote for ImageReady. It works wonders for compressing an image and yet leaves it looking acceptable.

Sinner_G




msg:855048
 3:25 pm on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

And one more vote for ImageReady. I like having the ability to decide for each colour tone wether I want to keep it or not.

limbo




msg:855049
 3:37 pm on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I like having the ability to decide for each colour tone wether I want to keep it or not

Yep this is a very nice feature. Although Fireworks can do this too ;)

caine




msg:855050
 3:49 pm on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

been with fireworks for three years now. very confident with it. seems capable of doing what i need from a graphics package. though i have never used photoshop, and the main reason i do not change from FW is becuase of the rest of the macromedia suite, specifically DW and FH.

dillonstars




msg:855051
 11:57 am on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree that fireworks is very good, but I have never found a better PhotoShop tool than BoxTop ProJpeg. The files are ridiculously small and VERY high quality (better even than fireworks).

If you do use the built in save-for-web optimizer in PhotoShop, you can get crisp lines on vector shapes and text by clicking on the 'circle in square' icon next to the quality settings. you can then select to use the text or shapes and have them at a higher quality than the rest of the image.

The file sizes are a bit bigger but sometimes it is worth the difference.

MatthewHSE




msg:855052
 4:39 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks everyone. Dillonstars, I downloaded BoxTop ProJpeg, but I've never installed a plugin for PhotoShop before and I'm not sure where ProJpeg should be installed to. Also, once it's installed, how do I access the plugin to use it?

Thanks,

Matthew

dillonstars




msg:855053
 4:45 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

You should install it in the plugins folder under c:/Program Files>Adobe>Photoshop>Plug-ins or something like that.

Make sure Photoshop isn't running, or you will have to restart it before it will work.

how do I access the plugin to use it?

In the "save as" menu, you will see an option to save it as a BoxTop ProJpeg image. The plugin will then load allowing you to set the compression level you need.

Rob

henry0




msg:855054
 10:50 pm on Jan 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Has anyone tried PaintShopPro?

piskie




msg:855055
 12:30 am on Jan 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Fireworks MX and Photoshop CS both prety dam good and both are noticably better than previous versions.

henry0




msg:855056
 1:20 pm on Jan 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree, but for fewer $ or for those just willing to do fewer tweaks, or even only experiment;
PaintProShop can be the answer

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