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Problems getting listed on Yahoo
Han_Chung




msg:832879
 1:53 am on Jun 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I've been trying to get listed on Yahoo for the last 7-8 months without any luck. Does anyone know what sort of criteria they use to determine whether or not they list your site? Does the description and title of your page have to comply with one of their standards?

I don't even think that one of their editors have even viewed my page, as I've been keeping a good eye on my logs for the last 7-8 months.

Han.

 

tedster




msg:832880
 9:22 am on Jun 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

I spent a year and half trying to get a site into the Yahoo! directory. A very, clean honorable site...that happens to sell product.

Through input on this forum and a few others, I'm now convinced that Yahoo! will no longer do a free directory listing for a site that sells any product or service. Period. You gotta fork over the $199.

I wish they just said it straight out, instead of playing the qualified word games they do. My client would have just paid the money right away.

Has anybody been able to get a commercial sales site listed for free in the last year?

Han_Chung




msg:832881
 10:55 am on Jun 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the reply!

That's what I don't get. My site is only one page containing my resume. It's completely clean - no swear words, no links to porn sites, etc.

I haven't had any luck with Looksmart either. The only directory I've managed to get on without any fuss is dmoz.org

Cheers,

Han.

Dave




msg:832882
 9:52 am on Jun 7, 2000 (gmt 0)

There's your problem, Han-

Yahoo is looking for significant content, of significant value to a significant subset of its users. It's rare for them to list a one-page site of ANY sort, let alone a resume site.

No disrespect intended, but your resume isn't likely to be of interest to a great many people. You'd likely have better luck with hotjobs.com or the like, instead of wasting your valuable time trying to get directories to accept a resume. I'm surprised that dmoz did, honestly.

Again, this is NOT meant to be harsh- just factual.

Han_Chung




msg:832883
 10:07 am on Jun 7, 2000 (gmt 0)

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the reply! No offence taken

I had a look at Yahoo and there's a category for resumes, a large number of industries, and under that, hundreds and hundreds of links to other people's resumes, so it doesn't seem like their policy is not to add these types of web pages, and under this category

Unless they've stopped accepting more sites into this particular category, I have no idea what is going on. Is this a common thing?

Cheers,

Han.

engine




msg:832884
 10:14 pm on Jun 7, 2000 (gmt 0)

Hi,
I'd add that a lot of the trouble stems from the huge volume of sites being submitted - the editors simply don't get round to reviewing them all. That is one reason they suggest resubmitting after a period of time (about 6-weeks, if I remeber rightly).
Top two tips:
Make sure you submit to the most relevant Yahoo and category (if you get in a local Yahoo it still lists you in the .com).
Write a clear, concise and factual entry (no advertising puff).

I've managed to get a client site (consisting of a home and two further pages) listed that sells art online. The editor went straight to the site within 24-hours and I got the e-mail to say where listed. It could have been I was lucky and their in-box was empty.

I've also struggled to get some sites listed (nothing funny in them, just good old, standard business sites).

I think the $199 relates to US-based sites only (correct me if i'm wrong).

Hope this helps.

Benj




msg:832885
 9:52 pm on Jun 9, 2000 (gmt 0)

Try taking the advice from this website to get into Yahoo.
[selfpromotion.com...]

Dave




msg:832886
 3:02 am on Jun 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

Welp, I had no idea my foot tasted quite like this, Han

I had *no* idea that Yahoo had a subcat for resumes.

The advice engine offers is good, as is that that you will find at selfpromotion.com. As I only deal with travel sites, my favorite tactic (submitting to a Regional Yahoo, getting listed there, then it propagates to the main) likely wouldn't work.

There's also some solid advice in the SEF Forum- the moderator there (Janet Berg) is loosely connected to Yahoo, and can often offer "inside" insight. She's also been known to send a helpful e-mail to "friends" on occasion, when the situation warrants and the mood strikes. If you've been trying for 8 months, and there are no clear obstacles, she may be able to help.

Do *not* just charge in to that forum, saying "Janet please get me listed"...simply post your dilemma, ask for advice as you did above, and one way or another you may get the help you need. Best of luck with your quest.Blue Sun

Blue Sun




msg:832887
 5:11 pm on Jul 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

I submitted to Yahoo about 4 months ago but I have not recieved any results. I contacted yahoo 2 months later and complained about not getting listed and they told me to resubmit which I did and still no results.

I dont know what I have done wrong, can someone help me out?

scott




msg:832888
 5:27 pm on Jul 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

Personally, I think they've stopped accepting them altogether. (don't everyone all say that at the same time....I'm not a doctor)

SE

Ealain Draoi




msg:832889
 4:10 pm on Jul 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

Q- Has anyone been able to get a commerical site on Yahoo for free?

Yes, I just got my commerical site on Yahoo, NOT using their $199 Business Express service. It went on in 5 days, no less. (of course, I've been trying to get the mainstream retail site on for months with no luck)
The site that I got on Yahoo, is a wholesale only (business to business) site, for a very specific market. (as has been pointed out, they're looking for unique content) However the interesting thing is that Yahoo stripped most the the very specific market keywords out of the description, thus broadening the market. And they listed it in two different places, one of which is good, and one of which is wildly inappropriate for that very specific market. (and remember, the keywords have been stripped from the description, SO the clickthrus don't know where they're going!) I'm almost afraid to ask Yahoo to take the site out of the wildly inappropriate catagory, because who knows WHERE they might put it next, and they also might move the listing out of the good catagory.
Even when good stuff happens, it's got strange twists, it's like living in an O.Henry story!

JamesR




msg:832890
 4:52 pm on Jul 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

I also have gotten business related sites into Yahoo for free in the last couple of months. Follow their guidelines, submit the site at least twice to the category 3 weeks apart, follow up politely with the URL support email and wait patiently. Can't emphasize polite enough.

The speed to get into the directory depends largely in part by the category. Yahoo's structure is that each area has a different set of managers and surfers. Managers pass sites down to surfers to place into the directory and the sites seem to be in no particular order, random. If you are submitting to a highly competitive area, it could take a long time to get in or you could get in the lucky batch that is passed on. I assume more obscure topics you will get in faster. If anyone wants to be a Yahoo surfer, they are taking applications ;) Apply Here! [join.yahoo.com]

Billythekid




msg:832891
 9:50 am on Aug 20, 2000 (gmt 0)

>Please see below letter from YAHOO!:

>
>The URL you submitted was not added to Yahoo!. We
>do not list every site suggested to the directory.
>Instead, we favor listing sites that provide Yahoo!
>users with robust content and information.
>
>In the spirit of constructive feedback, here is a
>list of reasons why we usually decline certain sites:
>
> - the site has broken graphics and images.
> - the site provides no new information or content.
> (For example, it is merely a set of links.)
> - the site presents inadequate or vague information,
> making it difficult for us to understand what it
> represents, or what it is offering.
> - the site is no more than a business card listing.
> (For example, it contains nothing but a few sentences,
> an address and a phone number.)
> - the site only offers content readily available from
> other sources. (In other words, it contains no unique
> content.)
> - The site uses applets and other features that slow
> down functionality and ease of use.
> - the site lacks complete business addressing
> information.
> In all likelihood, your site is described by at least
> one of the above. Web users are quickly turned off by
> underdeveloped sites. This reflects poorly not only on
> the individual site, but on Yahoo! as well.
>
> Keep in mind that we are not telling you to change your
> site. However, if you do decide to redesign or
> reorganize, please feel free to suggest the site again.
>
> Finally, please note that any judgment we make about
> your site is based solely on the individual site. We do
> not compare Web listings, and instead review them on
> their merits, on a case by case basis.
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> The Yahoo! Editorial Team
>

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