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Was the $299. worth it?
duhboy




msg:822500
 4:26 pm on Jul 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone,
I have a commercial site listed in OPD,Yahoo and assorted engines. Google results are ok, but could be better. I am working on this.
My question is basically; if Yahoo is using Google's search results (based on a phrase), and the predominant method used by people is also phrase based, was the $299 submission fee worth it?
If not, how do I go about improving my positioning at Yahoo? Traffic has increased but could also be better. I am not being greedy about it, just a little frustrated with Yahoo.
I am still fairly new to all of this fun stuff, but I am getting LOTS and LOTS of knowledge from this forum.
Thanks everyone, duhboy.

 

martinibuster




msg:822501
 5:16 pm on Jul 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

I would imagine that the Yahoo listing might give you a pagerank lift.

I've fluctuated between a PR of 8-5 lately, but I'm not in Yahoo.

I would say it helps to be in Yahoo. I just don't have the three hundred to plow into it. Year after year.

cyan_corp




msg:822502
 8:54 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hello Martininbuster and Duhboy?
Im in a similar situation as duhboy-IM about to submit our web site to Yahoo but I have found that if you submit to Yahoo UK its a once off charge of $299 and not an annual $299 fee so that might be a cheaper way of doing things.

Secondly-I hope Martininbuster can give me some information on how you determine your PR on Google?
Really appreciate the help-thanks

fathom




msg:822503
 9:46 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

The fact that Yahoo directory pages precede google results means that you have a better chance at being click through. So yes, it is worth the $299.

However, like anything else you need to do some homework. To maximize the traffic potential you really need to put some thought behind the copywrite of the description so to target not just directory results but the search engine "web sites and pages" as well. Good copy also means a better chance of the editor accepting your listing "as is".

Targeting the wrong phrases is the difference between getting your $300 worth and a lost leader.

Note: If you have a Dmoz.org listing already for the page it is best to use this. The more precise, duplicate listings you have also means the more relevant you become with metacrawlers top listing for which Yahoo results are often used.

Abrexa_UK




msg:822504
 1:40 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yahoo UK, if it is appropriate to your site, is adding sites for free by the dozen at the moment, so get in through there if you can.

duhboy




msg:822505
 2:47 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks to all who take the time to reply.
Yahoo UK...free???
Doesn't seem fair(boo hoo) that I could have been listed for free instead of paying $299.
It is tempting to ask the folks at Yahoo to explain this to my client.
Any comments, other than "too bad so sad" TBSS.
Thanks, duhboy.

cyan_corp




msg:822506
 3:26 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi Abrexa_UK
Thanks for the tip-could you give more info. on this free submission process that currently is on Yahoo UK?

Would really appreciate it as it would save the company that dreaded $299
Thanks
CYAN_CORP

Abrexa_UK




msg:822507
 4:50 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

There is a free submission option available on Yahoo.com as well, for non-commercial sites.

You have to have a UK site to get into Yahoo UK for free though. You can also still suggest a second category, which is a nice way to get a site listed in the main Yahoo non-regional hierarchy, in addition to the UK regional listing.

faintheart




msg:822508
 4:30 pm on Jul 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

why dont you try registering expired names that are still listed in yahoo?

<snip> offers such service...never tried, let me know if its worth it.

[edited by: Marcia at 7:54 pm (utc) on July 21, 2002]
[edit reason] snipped company name [/edit]

Hunter




msg:822509
 8:01 pm on Jul 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Faintheart,

1. Welcome to wmw

2. the first (and only) three posts you have made after joining wmw have all included a url to a specific service. Please read the posting rules.

Mardi_Gras




msg:822510
 9:54 pm on Jul 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Secondly-I hope Martininbuster can give me some information on how you determine your PR on Google?

If you are using a PC, just download and install the Google toolbar. It will show page rank on a horizontal bar. To see a specific number, hover the cursor over the bar, and a number will pop up.

If you are on a Mac, there are no options, unfortunately.

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