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 9:29 am on Oct 2, 2000 (gmt 0)

I have a client that wants to get into yahoo (fast) and is preperd to pay the $199 fee. having never done this before I could do with some advice please and maybe some fed back from other SEO's that have had experence with yahoo.

Like many others I have been submitting to yahoo but todate only have one site within their database, but all of my past experences have been using the free submit URL.

The site URL is www.appools.co.uk




 10:50 am on Oct 2, 2000 (gmt 0)

Hi tigger,

No expert but here goes.

The fundamental problem that you have with this type of submission is that as both the designer and SEO, you have two areas in which you are directly responsible for your clients Yahoo success.

You must thoroughly test the site in IE & NS browsers, Win & Mac, make *absolutely* sure that it works, if the site is rejected for errors the customer will blame you.

I have only looked briefly at the site and if it were me I would lose the splash screen for the time being [for more reasons than one ;) ] and change the gallery pop ups to onclick.

The critical areas to attend to apart from the site itself are the choice of category, title and description. In this case the choice of category seems straightforward, just run a search for your primary key phrase [I'm making assumptions here]. In an ideal world you would want your primary keyphrase included in the title, my attitude is simple, if the "official" site title does not contain the keyphrase then *change it*. Under no circumstances give them a reason to edit your description, be realistic in what you are able to achieve as regards keywords and make your client aware that this is what you need to do. Concentrate on your primary keyphrase only.

Hope this helps, feel free to use the local email if you need more.


 11:33 am on Oct 2, 2000 (gmt 0)


Thanks for your help.

The client like's the splash(no pun intended) so is your comment on the opening page your preference or something you think yahoo will not like ?

Is their a site where you can check your your sites compatability with other browers/operating systems.



 3:34 pm on Oct 2, 2000 (gmt 0)

>so is your comment on the opening page your preference or something you think yahoo will not like ?

First impressions count, the surfer from Yahoo will typically spend less than 60 secs on your site, hit them with your best shot not another cheesy overdone java applet.[Well you did ask.;)]

Make your title choice, use a copyright statement to reinforce it and work the contact details into it. You shouldn't have any problems with the site, although they may want to stick you in a regional cat, try and make sure this doesn't happen, in my experience it will affect rank.


 5:46 pm on Oct 2, 2000 (gmt 0)


My experience with Yahoo! has been it is not difficult to get in with Biz Express IF you follow the directions they give you to a letter.

Print out the submission instructions and use it as a checklist. Double check that you are putting your listing into the most applicable and most searched upon category.
And as Brett's assistant (whose name I can't remember) says


Remember: the search results for Yahoo! (not including Google) come ONLY from your description.

If you do get into Yahoo!, you can pretty much forget being able to tweak your site description or site title at a later time. Yahoo! just has too much work in putting new sites into their db to get to any of the changes.

I have been banging my head against the "Yahoo! brick wall" for a good 8 months now with no results.

So, the rule to remember is:

You MUST get it right the first time! No second chances.



 6:48 pm on Oct 2, 2000 (gmt 0)


Thanks I've checked the other sites in the category which I'm going to submit to (Regional > Countries > United Kingdom > Business and Economy > Shopping and Services > Home and Garden > Pools, Spas, and Hot Tubs ) and the only two other sites both have very similar descriptons(make's you wonder which one was their first :) ) not that I'm implying the description was copied.

I,m very surprised that a database the size of yahoo only has 2 swimming pool web sites within it, hopefully mine will be number 3 :)

The client has given me the nod to spend this hard earned cash so I'll submit tomorrow, when I've not had so many vodka's :)

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