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June 15, 2006 is there an update?
major movement for my site in serps...
andrewshim




msg:825214
 1:03 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Wondering if anyone is experiencing any sudden movement. Y!'s search blog hasn't stated any update yet but I'm seeing a big jump for me. I hope this isn't the start of another yo-yo ride!

 

superclown2




msg:825215
 8:42 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I suppose it depends on where you are, since there is more than one algo running. UK results are still as bad as ever.

andrewshim




msg:825216
 9:38 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

yeah... am referring to .com.
i checked .co.uk and i was nowhere! i'm really hoping this round of .com serps sticks for a while... or mebbe forever...

angiolo




msg:825217
 10:17 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

The algo search.yahoo.com depends on your IP (in which country you are located ).

Results in Europe are different from results in USA.

The most similar results to Yahoo USA are the uk.search.yahoo.com. You can ask to people in USA to do a search for you.

From Europe you can try to log in Yahoo.com (Usa) using an anonymizer software; you can note the difference because you will see the Overture results as well....

superclown2




msg:825218
 1:57 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yep, the set of results I get from the UK when I search yahoo.com are very different from the results I get through a USA proxy. Here in the UK the yahoo.com results seem pretty good, but the yahoo.co.uk results (which most people go to in the UK, unfortunately) are dreadful. I have two theories, one is that an experimental algo may be being used on the .co.uk results, and the other is that the whole thing here in the UK is a complete and utter $%!$^& up. Roll on the next update.

andrewshim




msg:825219
 2:29 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have two theories, one is that an experimental algo may be being used on the .co.uk results, and the other is that the whole thing here in the UK is a complete and utter $%!$^& up. Roll on the next update.

Thanks for the clarification angiolo... was always wondering about that. When i want to know my ranking in the u.s., I use online ranking tools. They're accurate.

I reaaaaaally hope superclown's theory about the experimental algo is wrong... if Y! really decides to base their serps on that algo, I'm buried man! Keeping my fingers (and toes) crossed for the next update.

michal_eu




msg:825220
 1:30 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Since several weeks I was no. 1 for a certain keyword on Yahoo. A few days ago my site was not listed anymore for that keyword. And today I'm no. 1 again...

followgreg




msg:825221
 4:18 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

What a shame again lol, ok I don't like Yahoo, think it is the most stupid engine ever but now listen to the rules:

> Add your keywords anywhere throughout your page, place a few backlinks from anywhere as long as it is not sitewide (they don't care about relevancy) and you get rankings!

If you are not hunting after their hand coded searche phrases (for which you can do NOTHING since they decide who gets on the 1st page and stick forever)you will get it-

They have the most stupid filters I have ever seen to prevent SEO to achieve....

Welcome to the world of Yahoo, so-called modern search engine...

andrewshim




msg:825222
 7:13 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

There's movement again in my category. I hate to admit it, but you are probably right followgreg the top site in my category is a site that looks good initially but when you go in, it's filled with affiliate links - very, very little original content except for maybe the introduction page.

And true to the Yahoo! yo-yo, I moved to 2nd place right under this site the last 2 days and then got kicked to page #2 again. It's as though this guy watches the serps and if you come close to him, he calls up his secret agent in Y! and say " can you take hime down a couple notches again?"

sigh.... conspiracy theory....

superclown2




msg:825223
 8:45 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

"If you are not hunting after their hand coded searche phrases (for which you can do NOTHING since they decide who gets on the 1st page and stick forever)you will get it- "

I'm not sure about this, Followgreg. Viewed from the UK one of my sites is top for a VERY competitive term in yahoo.com. What a pity that it's a UK only site, and everyone in the UK goes to yahoo.co.uk instead, where the site is nowhere! I confess that the logic of this escapes me. What seems to have put it top of yahoo.com is a huge number of rubbish links from scraper sites, which lends support to the theory that Y! are (at least in this particular algo) just counting links and not paying a lot of attention to the quality of those links. I wouldn't be surprised if there are further algo changes next month, whether these are for the better or worse remains to be seen.

surftrack




msg:825224
 12:52 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

where is your site hosted clown2?

if you want a better chance at the uk, host it in th uk.

(this is coming from experience)

superclown2




msg:825225
 1:42 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Surftrack. It's a .co.uk domain but I admit it's hosted in the USA so, yes, there could be a geotargetting issue. My best performing site in yahoo.co.uk at the moment is a .us domain which is hosted in the UK! However I have lots of (uk domain) sites on USA servers which still show up if I click the 'UK only' button but not in very good positions so there may well be an algo bias towards sites which are both UK domains and UK hosted. Certainly I started favouring UK hosts a couple of weeks ago for new sites, but with reluctance, they are a lot more expensive than USA providers but that's life.

surftrack




msg:825226
 5:13 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

i'm also discovering the msn is now geotargeting as well.

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