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Yahoo having a problem with RSS handling?
Sites are GONE from serps
crobb305




msg:839302
 2:56 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I dont see a single site listed in the serps with the "add to my Yahoo" and "view as xml" links. In fact, some of the serps I monitor no longer include the sites with RSS feeds.

My site disappeared from the serps yesterday. I see others today. Is this a glitch with their RSS handling?

 

crobb305




msg:839303
 9:31 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Still, 6 hours later, I do not see any sites who have RSS feeds listed right now in the serps. Am I imagining this? Normally, some of the sites I watch, who rank highly on certain terms, have an RSS feed included by their listing with an "add to my yahoo" link and a "view as XML". Not only are those links not displaying, but the webpages that contained the RSS feed are excluded from the serps.

There has to be a problem with their RSS handling right now, and I am surpised no one else has commented.

As a test, do any random search, you will likely not see a single RSS feed listed in the serps. Furthermore, the sites that normally do have RSS feeds are not even listed (at least the sites that have previously been recognized by Yahoo as having a feed with the aforementioned "add to my yahoo" link by it's listing). Absolutely incredible.

Iguana




msg:839304
 10:39 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have a lot of pages with rss feeds that used to show up as "view as xml" indented under the results. That has disappeared.

However, the actual rss pages are appearing in the results and I am still seeing the main pages in the index.

andrewshim




msg:839305
 1:02 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

yes! crobb305, I figure you are right.

As an afterthought, when my sites came back up to #18 in mid April, I changed my RSS feed title to a "better phrase/keyword density" and noticed that I went up to #10 3 days later. I have no idea if this change really affected my position but at least I can sleep tonight knowing I'm not the only one being yo-yoed.

crobb305




msg:839306
 4:05 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I do not see a single serp listing now with "view as XML" listing enhancements. And, at least 3 sites that have held top 10 placements for a big phrase with enhanced listings in the serps ("add to my XML") are no longer listed...going on 24 hours now.

crobb305




msg:839307
 7:46 pm on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone have any experience moving from feedster back to the regular rss feed url (example.com/rss.xml)? Feedster now applies a 301 to your feed when you discontinue using their service.

I stopped using their service Thursday, and my rankings crashed on Friday (in Yahoo). Could the two be related as Yahoo reindexes my RSS feed?

Trying to figure out what happened. Does not appear to be a complete ban as all internal pages are still indexed, but the homepage dropped to position 60 for it's own name.

andrewshim




msg:839308
 1:45 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Has anyone noticed a serp change Saturday 29 April 2006?

Found my site bumped down to 20 again. Was at 22 early April, then corrected a bunch of stuff (missing alt tags, adjusted keyword density etc), was climbing and reached 10. Then, Saturday, got bumped down.

My site is clean, all legit (can't afford to take risks with black hat SEO). One small thing I did change was my meta description tag on Thursday. I wonder if this can have such a drastic effect on my position.

Another thing I noticed is that the description on Yahoo! seemed to show an earlier cache, and the "View as XML" link below the Yahoo! description has been replaced with a "cached" link. Can anyone explain? Is it a temporary thing?

crobb305




msg:839309
 9:34 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

andrewshim,

Do you have an RSS feed on your site? Does your listing in the yahoo serps normally have a "view as xml" and "add to my yahoo" link? I dont see a single RSS site listed right now. It seems that there is a problem with their listing of webpages that contain RSS feeds. Pages that have RSS feeds and were once listed in the serps with the "add to my yahoo" link are now MIA.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:13 am (utc) on May 2, 2006]
[edit reason] Cleaning up thread splicing. :) [/edit]

Iguana




msg:839310
 10:45 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I commented during the early part of the update that I had dropped quite a number of places for my pages. Checking now I see that I have regained my places.

I get the impression from past Yahoo Update threads that thing are fluid for a while and it takes time to settle down to your true position, as if there are filters and adjustments that have to applied.

julinho




msg:839311
 11:28 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same situation here.

Two sites had significant improvements in SERPs on the 22nd; now they both are back to the previous positions.
I also think (hope) that it takes some time for new results to settle.

wmuser




msg:839312
 12:10 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I dont see the changes yet

andrewshim




msg:839313
 12:53 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

crobb305...

yes... the first time my site got kicked down in early april, it was my fault : I modified my xml file and did not notice that my feed wasn't working. After that, I also noticed my "View as XML" and "Add to myYahoo!" links were missing.

same thing here again... and yes, you're right! I was so preoccupied with my site getting booted down to page 3 that I didn't notice that ALL OTHER SITES with RSS feeds are now MIA for my key words.

if this is the problem, then OK... I don't feel like I'm the only one floating in the Arctic Ocean.

artdog




msg:839314
 7:00 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

For coveted keyword, moved up from position 8 to 4 in last 24 hours.

mikey158




msg:839315
 7:51 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Indeed, I am seeing something as well. My position has stayed the same, but link text is now the same as my paid directory listing .... instead of my pages title tag which is normally the case. The RSS link is also gone.

However, I have seen this type of entry in their listing but on very odd yahoo dc's (ie yahoo.uk and in their site explorer tool, etc). I really hope they fix this, as the new title does not sell the site like the old one - AND - as a YPN publisher, Y! as a whole would benefit from fixing this. Please help yahoo sarah or tim mayer :)

dynamite




msg:839316
 9:38 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

There might be a little snag with the latest update. I noticed I disappeared for "city widgets." I was at #6 - now a sub page ranks #97 for the term but not on the first 10 SERPs for the "City Widgets" page I want to rank.

"Different City Widgets" and "Yet Another City Widgets" seemed to hold their rank.

I'm guessing it's a snag and that my "City Widgets" page will return.

Anyone else notice something similar? One page disappears in SERPs for its term, but similar pages are ranking just fine for their intended keywords.

xalex




msg:839317
 12:02 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see SERP changes. And yes Yahoo is having trouble with site with rss feed. My site title has been replaced by rss title.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:839318
 3:03 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yep, count me in...., For the past year my site has appeared with the rss and directory link in the number 2 spot for my keyword and then "poof" my site is gone.

What gives?

crobb305




msg:839319
 4:01 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

kamikaze Optimizer,

Is your site completely out of the serps, or just missing the "add to my yahoo" and "view as xml" links?

I know of three sites that have been in the top 10 for months, that have feeds (recognized by yahoo with the enhanced listing) that are now gone. Further, I do not see a single listing with "view as XML" listing enhancements. Search for any term and you will see what I mean.

[edited by: crobb305 at 4:13 am (utc) on May 2, 2006]

tictoc




msg:839320
 4:13 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I noticed that SERoundTable linked over to this thread [seroundtable.com] and I am seeing the same things. I realize Yahoo had an update a week or so ago but that has nothing to do with this strange RSS issue going on.
I am not sure what else would explain these sites dissapearing from Yahoo. It has to be some type of glitch related to these sites that had RSS feed links listed next to the sites that are gone.

I would also like to mention that my site is not even listed for the trademarked name of my website.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:40 am (utc) on May 2, 2006]
[edit reason] Added link. [/edit]

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:839321
 4:59 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

crobb305: The site can be found doing a "site:www.mysite.com" search and in that case, it is missing the rss feed.

But more importantly, the site is missing from the serps altogether.

crobb305




msg:839322
 5:03 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

kamikaze Optimizer,

That is what I am observing. Site: search shows ALL pages of my site. But, the homepage has been devalued to the point that it is not even in the top 100 for it's unique name. Again, I am seeing this for many pages (homepages) which once had enhanced RSS listings in the Yahoo serps.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:839323
 5:11 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well crobb305, I hope you do not mind me saying but it is a comfort to me and should be to you that we are not alone.

The fact that Brett has put this out on the index page will hopefully draw some attention to it.

andrewshim




msg:839324
 6:44 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good thing to have this forum. I was really down in the dumps on the 28th thinking I was the only one. I see some of you guys are worse off than me.

My site is still listed at #22 (sigh) from #5 four days ago. If it's like the last time, it will take approximately 10 days before we see our sites climbing back up again - not restored to their highest before the glitch mind you. We'll find ourselves having to climb back up again.

C'mon Yahoo! what gives? Do we gotta go thru this cycle every month? Groaaaan!

crobb305




msg:839325
 4:10 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

andrewshim,

Do you have an RSS feed?

Edited: andrewshim, I am sorry, I just remembered your earlier post, and saw your sticky mail. Sounds like we are in the same boat.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:839326
 4:32 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Some thing else that I find interesting is when I do a "site:www.mysite.com" search, it shows just the title and the link, no description. And the title is often abbreviated, not the full title.

crobb305




msg:839327
 5:02 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Maybe Yahoo has decided to stop showing the "add to my yahoo" and "view as XML" links in the serps. The downside to this is that the page titles will now revert back to the Directory titles, which may affect CTR (if Yahoo displayed your RSS feed, your meta title was used, not the directory title).

If Yahoo has intentinally removed the listing enhancements, what remains inexplicable is why some pages that once had the enhancements have disappeared from the serps all together.

stajer




msg:839328
 5:02 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi all;

I don't quite understand what people say is happening.

Does each page in your site have a corresponding RSS feed. And Yahoo is not listing it properly because of some internal Yahoo problem.

In this situation could Yahoo have been crawling the RSS feed instead of the page itself? Does it index both? Or, does it just pick up the RSS link and place it in the serps?

Thanks for your help!

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:839329
 5:14 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yahoo just notices that you have an RSS feed and displays a link to it in the serps when your index page is shown in the results.

What has happened here is, for the sites that Yahoo did this, Yahoo has now droped those sites (not just the link display, the whole site) from the search results.

patc




msg:839330
 7:32 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Not entirely true, kamikaze - my site has lost the RSS links but has retained most of its positions even though the title has now switched to the non eye-catching directory title resulting in a much lower CTR, which is annoying.

mikey158




msg:839331
 7:45 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, again, this really blows ... as my directory title is not worth a flip. Please, please change this back yahoo!

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