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I see an update
broker_boy




msg:820365
 3:23 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can see a yahoo update - can anyone confirm?

Looks like they have gone the way of google with more authority based site.

Is this the end of the little guys?

God help me i hope not

Cheers,

BB

 

marketingmagic




msg:820366
 7:01 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

what category are you watching?

followgreg




msg:820367
 3:26 am on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

well not much seen on my end, except for the very (stupid) easy to game algo of theirs ;)

in my own opinion the little guys but also poor designers and seo have plenty of room to achieve their goals with simpe tricks on Yahoo if they can wait long enough for the search engine to refresh.

yahoo ranks websites based on wrong assumptions and poor understanding of what quality sites are. /-- rant stops here --/ ;)

I think that they are too busy hand coding competitive keywords SERP to make any kind of significant improvement and I even think that all their budget goes into 'elsewhere' than research despites what they say or they better start questioning their recruitment procedures for good.

People can say what they want but IMO yahoo is a search engine (so called) that:

- penalizes based on wrong assumptions very often, more likely their algo is buggy and need a complete make over
- ranks some websites based very basic criteria that other modern search engines balance with real popularity / quality factors and they do it for the best
- hand code competitive searches which is a sign of weakness
- is unable to (re)index websites while wasting bandwidth with their frenzy bot crawls which is definetely very very stupid

The whole thing about yahoo drives me mad because i used to believe that they would do good and I was hoping that they would balance Goo monopoly more efficiently but finally they leave it to MSN.

broker_boy




msg:820368
 9:20 am on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's pretty odd i can only see it on one computer in the office and only on ie not on firefox on that machine

Cheers,

BB

P.s. uk finance is the area

RichTC




msg:820369
 9:51 am on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

followgreg,

I can tell by your posts that you dont rate Yahoo, yet imo the results overall from Yahoo currently are the best ive seen from them in years.

Now thats from an objective angle. We have some sites that rank in Yahoo and some that just dont for what ever reason but over all they have come a long way. Doorways are gone, spam sub,sub,sub-domains are gone, some great authority sites showing, the index is very clean which is a first imo for Yahoo.

Maybe im looking at hand coded sectors in the UK, i dont know but currently the top ten for results in a volume of searches ive done on Yahoo include all the sites that i would expect to be listed - that makes them the most relevent by my book.

Anyway, look at the mess Google is in (we have one site in Google that has been absolutely trashed due to this supplemental bug issue)and the cr@p thats currently rising to the top of Google due to the problem is amazing. This BD update could kill google imo the way they are going. As for MSN, dont make me laugh i could knock together a spammy 20 page junk site and have it ranking 1 for major keywords within about 7 days - msn serps are a write off.

Currently i dont think Yahoo have a problem when compared to the other two - they are out performing them in terms of quality.

Dayo_UK




msg:820370
 9:25 am on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I now see this update starting.

Yahoo seems to be doing the trick of dropping lots of pages for a while like they have on previous updates....

www.yahoo.co.uk down to 29 pages :) in a site check.

heisje




msg:820371
 9:35 am on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

.

yes, a substantial update.
does not look nice, too, for the time-being.

heisje

.

angiolo




msg:820372
 2:49 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Are you referring to Yahoo UK or yahoo.com?

I do not see variation on yahoo. com

mfishy




msg:820373
 9:08 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

No update on .com

heisje




msg:820374
 12:21 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

.

seems it has been some kind of "dance" at .com
(ex. for one site: from 37.000 listed pages to 290, and back again, fortunately)

back to normal now, for the time being . . .

heisje

.

Kirby




msg:820375
 12:40 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

Iam not seeing an update, but many sites being dropped.

afterburner




msg:820376
 5:22 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have not seen much happening on Yahoo for many months now, very slow!

cleanup




msg:820377
 5:54 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes it does look like very dance-like.

As noted by Dayo_UK we have seen missing pages before during an update.

I don't recall it lasting quite as long as this before, just a few days.

Where as this time I first started noticing the flipping/dance behaviour near the begining of last month (I think) a number of weeks ago now anyway.

Dayo_UK




msg:820378
 5:58 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Cleanup

Funny enough the missing pages I was seeing was only on the Saturday morning UK time - by the afternoon all was well again.

Might be a case of hitting a certain Yahoo Data Center (I believe they do have Data Centers).

cleanup




msg:820379
 6:50 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Dayo_UK,
Yes, thats what I see, different time of the day, differing number of results returned and my site either there or not there about 50/50.

I first noticed this around 3-4 weeks ago.

The thread was;
[webmasterworld.com...]

ramachandra




msg:820380
 6:52 am on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

With this new Update, my site is ranking great. It seems to be a good Update.

Crush




msg:820381
 6:57 am on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

What you are seeing is yahoo's second data center. They have only 2 whilst google has many :)

Occasionally you see the second data center. They have been doing this for months but always revert to the stale old data center that has been there for months.

Crush




msg:820382
 7:10 am on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

actually i found this as data centers but all the data is the same:

[216.109.117.133...]
[216.109.117.134...]
[216.109.117.135...]

[216.109.117.137...]
[216.109.117.138...]
[216.109.117.139...]
[216.109.117.140...]
[216.109.117.152...]

[66.218.71.233...]

followgreg




msg:820383
 9:11 am on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I really dont see where see witness any update, nothing major is going on with this enigne for months (or more).

They dont even really refresh their index, it's like a dead engine, looks like altavista before they bought it.

If they would have both something really new and really good, they would have to rewrite their whole algo IMO. :)

Crush




msg:820384
 8:28 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

maybe tim mayer has something to say? yahoo Tim?

followgreg




msg:820385
 7:42 am on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)


I take back my word :) they did something, pitiful as usual but they did.

wordy




msg:820386
 8:16 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

AV looks like it is showing new SERPS!

suzie250




msg:820387
 12:58 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

If this is an update it's a very big downgrade for me. :>(

All but five of my pages have been removed.

But what is really weird site: and siteexplorer show totally different pages with both only showing 5 pages.

truezeta




msg:820388
 1:36 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yep, they did some major tweaking. I was just on there less than 24 hours ago sorting through major mess. The mess is gone...well most of it.

mfishy




msg:820389
 3:32 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

no update , just some shuffling. Real old data still being used.

ramachandra




msg:820390
 12:21 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing most the of the sites with hidden text are ranking high.

Can anyone know how I can report a spam site to Yahoo?

afterburner




msg:820391
 3:13 am on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see some small changes in my area, nothing big though.

Crush




msg:820392
 9:30 am on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

like watching paint dry...yawn

broker_boy




msg:820393
 11:46 am on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seing some sites that got kicked reappearing in the main set of serps . The alternative serps that i reported seem only to be showing on a minority data center ( only one computer can see them in our office).

Cheers,

BB

RichTC




msg:820394
 12:12 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

looks like a tweak of the age knob imo,

Some newer sites we were working on that are six months old have been knocked back they had positions before

Overall, Yahoo serps look very good imo

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