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Yahoo Update Dec 14, 2005
Yet another update to SERP's
MLHmptn




msg:847846
 7:10 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

When is Yahoo going to figure out that their best results are simply the unfiltered ones?! This update seems to be a step in the right direction but what kills some spam brings in more spam. Doesn't ever seem to make sense. Why update if you can't improve the search experience? Please read a page out of Google's book or for that matter even MSN's. Yahoo, I'm sorry, but your results don't seem to reflect top authority sites anymore. Anybody can just spam your algo and get listed it seems.

Enough negativity! :>~ Until Yahoo's next update.

 

Crush




msg:847847
 9:50 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

yeah, what they doing. One day this the next day that. Pretty big changes from what I see.

followgreg




msg:847848
 10:12 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

From what I can see on my default Yahoo.com it seems like we are going to have a good laught..or cry.

I already knew they were unable to deliver relevant results unless they manually double check SERP, but now it is the first time for years that i can see such ridiculous results.

When I see websites in top 5 position on competitive KW's on Google and MSN now being dropped by Yahoo...I say fine...their mistake/choice.

BUT when I see what sites replaced them, that includes several websites penalized by Google for multiple sneaky cheats - it makes me think that Yahoo is Way Off the scale in my incompetency-o-meter -

These guys are not good - period, one can argue, out of 50 queries new well ranked websites range from sub domain spam to doorway pages, poor quality content overall, bulk link exchange is working, no filter...well just not good at - just - not - good.
Maybe they should just focus on messenging systems, not that it is the best of all but at least it is not that bad, unlike their search engine.

These guys have NO CLUE how to build relevant SERP unless their manually tweak things - Amazing :)
There are clearly only 2 SE left, Google and MSN ....

zeus




msg:847849
 10:51 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Im still not realy interested in a yahoo update, first they dont give much traffic and I think they just ban to many sites manualy, there are so many site missing on yahoo.

idolw




msg:847850
 11:21 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

hmm, i see that nasty activity based on adding affiliate ID to real page of service provider works both in yahoo and google.
looks like there is no more need to build new sites. just sign up to plenty affiliate programmes and make links promotion for real pages with affiliate ID.
oh dear, that will not make internet a better place...

crobb305




msg:847851
 12:09 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Am I missing something? Why is this on the main news page, with the title "due to be complete Thursday, December 14"? I see nothing in the content of this thread that suggests this. Has Tim or anyone else posted a "weather report"?

c

Jean Valjean




msg:847852
 12:16 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Update or not I love Yahoo I rank top for all my targeted key words.

crobb305




msg:847853
 12:18 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, I often use alltheweb as an indication of "things to come" on yahoo.com, and there are big changes there. We will see what happens.

Marcia




msg:847854
 12:18 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Tim posted a Weather Report, yes. And he said that the update should be finished some time Thursday, Dec. 15th

It's the very tail end of holiday shopping shopping, so some should feel the impact with last minute sales either for better or worse. And what we see when it's done is what will roll in Q1, 2006.

voices




msg:847855
 12:22 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think Yahoo results look pretty much like Google. The manufacturer, Amazon and epinions are always at the top of the pile.

textex




msg:847856
 12:28 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Each Yahoo! update looks worse and more like MSN with sneaky, spammy sites ranking.

No authority sites whatsoever.

crobb305




msg:847857
 12:34 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks, Marcia. I missed that weather report. I am seeing the changes now, esp on the yahoo portals.

dudibob




msg:847858
 12:42 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

oh dear, yahoo might get it right one day :s

Jean Valjean




msg:847859
 1:06 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

those guys that are not satisfied i bet are the guys lost positions cause they don't apply yahoo guidelines.Ok you guys ,yeh..great ,enjoy your rankings at google and do not post here.This is a yahoo pro thread.

idolw




msg:847860
 1:16 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Jean,

make a search for <snip> on yahoo and tell me what you see #1?

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:18 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2005]
[edit reason] no specific kw's please... [/edit]

textex




msg:847861
 1:36 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Also seeing alot of parked domains and one page sites ranking for some very competetive KWs.

textex




msg:847862
 1:50 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

What is the deal with yahoo canada?
Those SERPS are new but even more different. Should those align with Yahoo US?

zeus




msg:847863
 2:12 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

as said before yahoo is not worth worring about, the search just have to many affiliate link codes, scrapers, spam sites and they have baned so many sites manualy, which did not deserv it but they where in the same IP block or other.

Concentrate on search engines where you also see a future, like google and MSN which will be huge by the rerease of VISTA. Just a tip

ncreegan




msg:847864
 2:12 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Definitely seeing companies with money invested in quality content taking a hit, at least in the areas I keep an eye on. And up up up go the Sploggers.

I must say that the other day I did find Yahoo! superior for locating quotes from the Ladies Man. G was hatin on on all the best <snips> sites.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:19 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2005]
[edit reason] no specific kw's/sites please...tanks. [/edit]

marketingmagic




msg:847865
 2:21 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

More junk from Yahoo. They stopped being a real search engine ages ago. :-)

And do they ever listen to spam reports?

digicam




msg:847866
 2:28 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

When I search on <snip spam> as suggested I get relevant results to me, the problem is that the top five slots are all paid listings, with 3 more at the bottom and 10 at the side - what is the point?

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:19 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2005]
[edit reason] please no specific kw.s.... [/edit]

Iguana




msg:847867
 2:41 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, what is the problem with the <snip> results - #1 is the same page as #1 in Google. I'm a bit lost here.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:20 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2005]
[edit reason] please no specific kw.s [/edit]

BillyS




msg:847868
 2:56 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure it's completely over. Earlier today I only saw 580 pages in the index, now it's at 850. So my guess is we are still in for a bit of a ride.

At least I'm not banned - which was the outcome of the last big update.

econman




msg:847869
 3:04 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Try a search for "example" Compared to both Google and MSN, the results are amazingly poor quality. A third of the top 10 results are weird/garbage; most of the remainder are pages from generalist sites with limited content, like the bbc, wikipedia and yahoo itself.

Similar problems with some of the more specific destinations and multi-word searches for that region.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:20 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2005]
[edit reason] please no specific kw.s [/edit]

Erku




msg:847870
 4:01 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

How many DCs does Yahoo have? And when will we see all the final results?

subway




msg:847871
 4:49 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is the update over? I'm seeing yahoo travel ranking extremely well for lots of travel related searches... in some cases 4/10 results will be yahoo. This can't be over.

idolw




msg:847872
 5:32 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

<snip>

I mean, my sites were and are still high, but i am unhapppy seeing that nasty activity of adding affiliate id to the real page works in 21st century.
i will now move to do that and join those making the internet more spammed and #*$!ty place.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 5:49 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2005]

followgreg




msg:847873
 5:44 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

The more I look at their new SERP the more I believe Yahoo has already lost the battle.

They alienate themselves and since they clearly have no technological advantage, they are lost - they can buy as many retired scientists from the pentagon as they want, won't change the facts.

Besides that, they pull out these poor results right in the buying season, not a smart move IMO - I guess that those spammy affiliate sites will be happy about it.

I think that Yahoo truly doesn't think beyond very bsic concepts - I use the same queries for long time now when it comes to check SERP and I can tell that except for 3 or 4 of them ...they dropped legitimate sites for whatever reasons, replacing them by very poor quality sites -
Anyways...the amout of traffic they "really" provide to most websites is ridiculous compared to Google, low influence.

Comment over - Yahoo over - I spent already too much time talking about a future ex-major player.

Dayo_UK




msg:847874
 5:53 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

For me it looks so far so good - although I dont know if we are completed or near completed.

Slurp has been doing a better job of indexing sites (IMO) over the last year - and I think that Yahoo have a much much deeper index than they did a year or so ago.

I am not one for looking at Serps (especially Yahoos) and saying this site does not belong here, this one is a cloaked page, this one is a redirect etc.

But from where I am sitting the depth of the index has been improving throughout the year and when I do a search Yahoo can pretty much find what I want.

All just my experiences of course.

funandgames




msg:847875
 6:32 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow, my two competitors got slammed. Yahoo listings have always been kind of wacko compared to the other SEs.

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