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msg:841154
 5:27 pm on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo Inc. unveiled a service Wednesday that allows users to get their questions answered online for free by volunteers.
The feature, called Yahoo Answers, gives a human touch to what has typically been the exclusive role of the Web portal's search engine.

Yahoo Answers story [sfgate.com]

Yahoo Answers [answers.yahoo.com]

[edited by: engine at 6:08 pm (utc) on Dec. 8, 2005]

 

maximillianos




msg:841184
 5:27 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree with you delux. Yahoo is great a copying and following suit after someone else has already done is successfully.

They preach about publishers creating "original content", yet they just keep copying everyone else.

Funny.

oddsod




msg:841185
 9:16 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo's service is new and innovative. There is no money changing hands for answers. If you don't consider Yahoo's service as new and innovative, consider this:

Yahoo started a search engine (and directory). Then Google came along and copied them by starting their own SE (and copying the ODP directory). Google should innovate :)

steveb




msg:841186
 9:51 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Having someone answer a question incorrectly is not new or innovative. My Aunt Myrtle has been around for years.

deluxcougar




msg:841187
 10:04 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Your Aunt and my Aunt sound very similar.

I see this as others have said as a forum of opinion more than a reliable source for answers to Yahoo users questions. I think that is what Google has done that makes their service better even if it does cost you a few dollars the responses seem that they would be far more reputable

emodo




msg:841188
 10:18 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree, the answers I am getting from Yahoo answers are simply horrible.

Basically everyone is trying to answer/ask at such a speed to get points that people are giving the superficial/useless answers.

Dante




msg:841189
 12:55 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Superficial and useless answers?

On the home page right now... (really)

what is the best carpal tunnel treatment?

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker:

Prolonged masturbation.

-

emodo




msg:841190
 1:27 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

+5 points! Go Yahoo!

Of course, the dynamics will change dramatically when people are PAID for asking/answering through YPN.

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841191
 2:25 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

sheesh...
you ppl get intimidated by long posts or something?

if you read what I wrote .. you'd know the system is a DIRECT copy of the Korean Knowledge search system Yahoo has already been running for years (which they copied from Naver). and about the "copying" thing.... are we forgetting, Google copied PPC and that's still their main breadandbutter.

as far as anyone stateside is concerned this IS a huge innovation. you guys need to remember ppl around here are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of the curve.

Anyway, the Knowledge Search aka Answers system not only WORK...it CAN produce results that are MUCH BETTER results than web search (once its fleshed out)--which is why it has replaced web search as the default in the Korean market.

o_0

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841192
 2:28 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

btw...We have to see how deep it fleshes out in the US (compared to Korean market or forums, for example)...but even if "only" turns out better for common questions....THAT'S HUGE---cause "common questions" are....COMMON. I might actually start using yahoo be default if that were the case....as I tend to be "common" about my questions as well. ;) (just making a point).

It seems like people are forgetting what the word "BETA" means. :/ And as noted one of the most important features of INCENTIVES (the points) don't get you anything...yet. plus, the rating system WILL start taking more into affect.

As I said, the system much much deeper than a present release (if the Korean version they are getting this from is any indication). Looks as though they just wanna fill it with ANYTHING right not as it just started. So, yah... of course its not going be as high quality starting out. I bet most did what I did and just shot a few whatever questiosn and answers out just to test it. I assume thousands of people will do that for a while. hence, again, BETA.

that said, I already found some pretty dang useful responses that I already did NOT find at google withone some digging! that says ssomething as well.

And btw, sorry, I looove google stuff in general...but Google Answers is WEEEEAK and would never reach any kind of critical mass as a paid service (and they know that)... and really isn't even in the same league as this kind of system. The comparison is apples and oranges. Fact is, paying for information one would think they could search for or get if they found "right forums"....blows. If one day they make it free...which they might one day (in repsonse to this)...but's another story.

People around here have looked and complained and criticized and wished for a "better search" for years...
this provides the ability to provide one, with actual human answers....you just have to actually participate (in a constructive way. Like by asking meaningful questions and answering reply with good answers. (er...kinda like arond here? no?)

if you don't...well...
then I dont' see what saying hanging around the "yahoo search" forums saying it just "sux" seems very hypocritical.

but I'm sure that's just me. no offense.

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841193
 3:00 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Disclaimer: I'm not a Yahoo advocate, but I am a Knowledge Search aka Answers one since I know by FACT it can produce BETTER results and works as a system.

======================================================
From my experience, Knowledge Search (Answers) systems are tend to work best for TACIT knowledge. (you know..the stuff you have to PAY for with Google Answers +_+).

so for searches like "how do I install XXXXX on a YYYYY?"
as opposed to just tying in "Sheraton Hotel".

with the latter...KS is generally fine, but a good web search is often better because it can get to the point faster as most people typing that will probably just want the Sherton's web site. We don't necessarily need or want someone replying with links a hotel discount site with the Sheraton on it (which happens)...much less have to vote on that.

For the former...Answers can be GREAT, much better than web search, as web search often ends up with me doing a a lot of more digging (for me at least). Even the great GOO comes up with a whole lot of stuff that seeeeems ok...but then I find myself opening 10 windows to ten differnt sites and having to read through whatever forums or site for a while before I find an answer (if ever---I usually find myself registering on some forum posting the question). So how are the complaints that "deeper" might not be available any different than the current state of web search? I can only see it being better.

Knowledge Search (Answers) has the potential to cut alllll of that out (which it has in the korean market...and which is why web search is now 5th or so in usage.) Think about the "ask the audience" choice on "who want's to be a millionaire" vs. calling a friend. Unless you KNOW you afriend is an expert in that topic..I'd go with the audience everytime. That's where G answer's fails for me.

How many people will NOT find their way to WebmasterWorld or whatever community or website if some questions were answered by knowledgable people straightaway? Its not a small implication.

With Knowledge search..if I need deep and long answers I often DO get them straight away...or yes, might have to dig a little more...but big deal might have a good lead and well its same NOW with web search.. and at that point, KS has already succeeded (cart before the horse).
So the potential IS there for Answers as well.

Interestingly, the question is a human one. The doubts come in whether people will participate with quality answers. I will risk saying yes cause I've seen the system and its good...and if there wasn't the potential how the heck did WIKI get so big? (and that's MUCH MUCH more open to garbage).

Remember, its success in the US (english speaking) market will be on OUR heads since its a human run and moderated system...so when it comes down to it...

we will we DO...or watch?

-so asks GrendelKhan{TSU} (pluggin away with Knowledge search in the internet biz world in Korea for years.)

emodo




msg:841194
 4:22 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

you ppl get intimidated by long posts or something?

I stopped reading here. :)

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841195
 4:51 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

heh. figures. Anyway...cliff notes:

--Its a copy of the long running, and wildly successful Korean "knowledge search" system (which Yahoo Korea has had for years and was originally created by Naver.com.)

--This is so good, it basically killed web search in Korea.

--The Yahoo Answers version is BETA and watered-down version of the KnowledgeSearch system in Korea, but the potential will have far reaching implications for all of SEM and who we do search....
if it "takes".

--that's a big "IF".

--if you want a preview of that is probably in the works for the system.... look to Yahoo Korea. (or even better: NAVER dot com)

====================

this is what the default page looks like at Yahoo Korea for Knowledge Search (might as give examples from theirs although Naver's I like better):
[kr.ks.yahoo.com...]
notice your the broze, silver, gold, platinum, diamond rating system ;)

here is a SERP for the keyword "loan":
[kr.sch.ks.yahoo.com...]

here is a Q&A page for the top result for "loan":
[kr.ks.yahoo.com...]
(notice includes some spammy type results and html is enabled.

but look at how that compares with a search for somethign like: celebrity movie runway fashion (which was listed a top keyword)
[kr.sch.ks.yahoo.com...]
(note thumbnail images...which come from the actual reply:
which are often full of images
[kr.ks.yahoo.com...] )

Yahoo answers is all text now it seems and answers close quickly. but trust me...the full system and rewards and checks and balances is quite deep well laid out.

softwareengineer99




msg:841196
 6:36 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo! Answers will decimate Google Answers

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841197
 7:11 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo! Answers will decimate Google Answers

I dont' think that's even in question (at least it isn't for me).^^

Lovejoy




msg:841198
 9:12 pm on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

There are already tons of these "Answers" sites about,
(I had one on my site since about 1997). The problem is I don't see anyone really participating for very long in the answers department unless they get paid ;~) I participated in one for over two years, thinking it might drum up some business, big "Nope", less than a .5% conversion rate. Most people looking for "free" anything quit as soon as they have to crack open their wallet.

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841199
 5:53 am on Dec 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

so...how's the progress on this going?

I just checked again, I am..imo...finding a ton of pretty good info and results. (or is that just me). I am certainly seeing a ton of people that are looking pretty addicted already.

so far so good for a beta, imo, and incentives haven't even started in (again the check and balance systme is key)...

anyone else?

GrendelKhan TSU




msg:841200
 5:54 am on Dec 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

There are already tons of these "Answers" sites about,
(I had one on my site since about 1997). The problem is I don't see anyone really participating for very long in the answers department unless they get paid ;~) I participated in one for over two years, thinking it might drum up some business, big "Nope", less than a .5% conversion rate. Most people looking for "free" anything quit as soon as they have to crack open their wallet.

the difference is yahoo has the audience. Those sites could never make it cause they have to have an critical mass audience first.

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