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Something weird..can anyone explain?
ScarlettR8




msg:825179
 8:28 pm on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

In trying to figure out why I've just dropped from positions #8 - 10 to #170 - 180 I have just discovered something weird that I don't understand.

When I do a site:mysite.com and click the 'Cached Page' for my index page the Yahoo header states:

Below is a cache of www.othersite.com/resources/callink.php?linkid=111. It's a snapshot of the page taken as our search engine crawled the Web.

The site is one I have exchanged links with, as have a number of the sites still appearing in top 10 positions that don't show this on a site:competitor.com and check of their cached page.

Does anyone know why this is happening? Is this why I have been dropped? Is it anything to be concerned about? Many thanks, I have very little hair left, any info would help.

[edited by: martinibuster at 8:36 pm (utc) on May 24, 2005]
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jd01




msg:825180
 6:38 am on May 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

It sounds like, either accidentally or purposely your page has been hijacked by othersite.com...

I would worry and ask them to fix the problem immediately, by using a straight link or no link at all.

Sounds like a meta refresh, or some other issue (possibly with the php running their links, see the cached URL) similar to a 302 in Google. I have not noticed too many of these in Y or M, but occasionally I have seen them.

Justin

ScarlettR8




msg:825181
 5:25 pm on May 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your input jd01. So, say it is intentional, what would be the value to them of doing this. It's just a link to my site amongst many others? Technically, does this mean Yahoo perceives my home page as a page on their site?

jd01




msg:825182
 8:16 pm on May 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Technically, does this mean Yahoo perceives my home page as a page on their site?

Yes, and that's exactly why people do it intentionally. It's basically a trick to make the SE believe a site has pages and information that it does not. Think about how many pages you could have if all you had to do was write a link that made the SE think the page you link to was part of your site... You could create an 'authority' on any subject, and then run your G-ads, so when people visited and realized your site didn't have any information they would have somewhere to go.

I have seen this both ways... sometimes people use a generic script for linking and have no idea they are doing this. Others write the links to do it on purpose.

I have seen this happen with frames too. I contacted one person who used a framing script, who honestly had no idea that the free frame script they were using put all links into a frame on their URL. EG Anytime a link was clicked the page opened as if it was part of his site... no matter how many links were clicked.

So, if you navigated from their site to another site, the other site and all of its links were opening as if they were a part of the first site... Even if you navigated 2 or 3 sites away from theirs. No matter how far you went, everything opened like it was his... and these were getting indexed as part of his site!

I am sure he had no idea, because he pulled his entire site from the internet as soon as he knew.

This is actually a very good catch and I will probably revisit my sites listing again to make sure... I normally do a once a month 'house cleaning', but may start going back to weekly again.

Justin

ScarlettR8




msg:825183
 7:18 am on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

I requested the link be removed from the 'othersite.com' ...two days later I'm back in top 10 after having been bumped to #180 and worse for two weeks. Who said links TO your site can't hurt you?

cyberprosper




msg:825184
 12:24 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

There are just too many links on the Internet to police them properly. I wish the search engines could deal with this problem.

Marcia




msg:825185
 12:45 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've got a site hijacked by some "directory" affiliate site and in spite of having contacted them several times they will not remove the link that's doing it. At first it only affected Google rankings, now it appears it's made its mark at Yahoo as well.

It seems my only recourse at this point is to file with the registrar about their phony whois infomation - including non-existent email address, so there is no way they can respond to any registrar enquiries.

Wasn't Yahoo supposed to have fixed these problems?

ScarlettR8




msg:825186
 7:57 am on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Interesting development, the offending site has now removed all of their links pages from their site...could Yahoo have contacted them, following my submission to them about the problem?

So now that I am completely paranoid about this, I've been checking everything inside and out and have discovered a number of my sites that I have been struggling with are linked to from a number of these so-called 'directory' sites, nothing but lists of keywords and links to other sites, no email address on sites, unknown name and sometimes no email in WHOIS.

Other than the clear indication that I had in this recent incident...how can you tell if your site has been hijacked.?

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