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Multiplicity of Sites in Yahoo Results
Pico_Train




msg:828755
 9:59 am on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been doing some work for clients to improve their search positioning and increase their "organic traffic".

I've studied the Yahoo results quite a bit and it is quite clear that for this industry, Yahoo's top 10 is 30% occupied by the same page. That's 3 out of the 10 results for those not so good in math ; ) 1 is the right page, and the other 2 are redirects to the page from different domain names.

Now if you can get your site to No.1, create 9 more domains redirecting to that site and you have the whole 1st page of Yahoo results to yourself.

Yahoo? What are you doing about this?

 

Pico_Train




msg:828756
 10:24 am on Apr 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I received a reply from Yahoo thanking me for informing them of the situation and assuring me that the engineers were looking into such situations.

I will be happy when this situation is not being looked into but solved.

Anybody else experience this?

Essex_boy




msg:828757
 6:25 pm on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Their showing 3 diffrent versions of my home page.

Which is odd.

Craig_F




msg:828758
 6:55 pm on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I forget the search, but I ran into this the other day and thought I was seeing things. I'm not sure what was going on but the majority of the 1st page was all the same site with different urls. I know this is out there of course, just haven't ran into it like this in a long time.

Pico_Train




msg:828759
 12:36 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's actually pathetic that this is happening on such an easy trick to catch.

I certainly hope they sort this one out shortly. I hope people don't get too many ideas with this one. Could be disastrous.

Pico_Train




msg:828760
 10:37 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I got contacted by someone from Yahoo, I think, through Webmasterworld. Very cool. They asked what the search was for and other details.

So I did the search and the problem is gone. Seems like Yahoo listens to small guys like me and sorted this one out!

Cool! I feel like a search maestro today.

Thank you for getting on top of this Yahoo, thank you for what seems like having fixed this problem.

Oh yeah, Brett, cool site, Yahoo, Google and MSN respect the opinions in here.

Just goes to show, if you spot something very weird, spammy and just wrong, report it and it will be attended to.

Cheers!

george123




msg:828761
 11:20 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Pico_Train
your enthousiasm makes me wonder if the competition world drives people like you to become like in the 40's during the war....Did you ever heard of Dahau and Quislings?

Pico_Train




msg:828762
 11:39 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Never heard of them, explain.

george123




msg:828763
 12:17 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Never heard of them"
That is the reason that the web has been a business that the ones controlling it (ie Search Engines) should pay attention,. I guess you must be or very young or uneducated in History, we have to realize that publishing anything on the www is like working as publishers for the biggest newspaper in the world.-when I first start working at a newspaper in my country (30 years ago) I first went through an interview with the chief editor and I had to answer questions about global knowledge.-I strongly believe that in the future ,I hope the very near future the world wide web will be a place only for publishers that have global education and not only html or php or asp or programming or hijacking or copy and paste. Its a lot about you can write but it will take a whole conference about what is accepted and what is not from the www that suppose to be democratic but at the same moment is a contradiction between Oligarchies and Anarchy but nothing to do with Democracy. As about your question make a search about the words I mention at Google.

Pico_Train




msg:828764
 1:20 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'll send a sticky rather than write this.

[edited by: Pico_Train at 1:27 pm (utc) on May 6, 2005]

Pico_Train




msg:828765
 1:27 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

.

rescendent




msg:828766
 3:59 pm on May 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Related but from the other point of view. Yahoo et. al indexed my site before all the domains and alternate urls did redirects. Now the site lists together with itself in the search index as described in the first post. (Different versions of the pages as the site was being updated)

This is annoying both for users and for log file analysis.

However now 301 redirects have been put in place, for example:

domain.com
domain.net
www.domain.net
301 Moved permanently -> www.domain.com

Mixed/uppercase URLs (e.g. WWW.domain.com/Widget2.aspx)
301 Moved permanently -> lower case URL (e.g. www.domain.com/widget2.aspx)

Per rewriting URLs (e.g. www.domain.com/widget.aspx?id=2)
301 Moved permanently -> rewritten URL (e.g. www.domain.com/widget2.aspx)

Should this remove the duplicates via normal spidering?

Cheers

deluxcougar




msg:828767
 10:13 pm on May 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see a lot of this in my industry. I should take better notes and report to Google and Yahoo.

Pico_Train




msg:828768
 8:17 am on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

You should, now I am seeing the exact same thing in Google by the same site.

All they seem to do is change the title and description and is a redirect to their .com domain.

Duplicate content? Search engine spam? Whatever you want to call it.

webhound




msg:828769
 1:44 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

george123 - lighten up. lol

JeremyL




msg:828770
 3:05 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I know for a fact that Yahoo is not doing filtering on an IP basis to keep the same sites from dominating the serps. I seriously cannot understand why thie isn't part of the algo. It is common sense that multiple results from the same IP should not dominate a search phrase.

An example is, in my industry, 5 out of 10 results for a search come from the same ip. Different domains, but 90% same content. The same search if we dig deeper has 9 out of the top 20 results all from the same IP with different domains and 90% the same companies.

Also if they are doing duplicant content filtering, it isn't working to well.

rescendent




msg:828771
 5:37 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmm... I'll ask my question in a seperate post...

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