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Anyone for Tennis? Yahoo Serps Pattern Unstable
Rank is back and forth like a game of tennis

10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 1:46 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Domain is 4 months old and the rank in Yahoo one week is good (page 1) the next week not so good (page 5) its a continual back n forth pattern. Been like this now for 2 months.

I feel like its "Match Point" and something needs to be done to win the result. Maybe a little more optimizing and serve them an "Ace" but risk a "Penalty Point" for unsporting behaviour.

Or is this a normal patttern in Yahoo index for a relatively new domain, and best to give it some more time to settle?



10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 10:59 pm on Apr 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm having the same problem. My site is approximately 4 mos. old. It shows up for a few days ranking well in the serps, and then "poof" it's gone. This has gone off and on for a few months now.

Here are the characteristics:
It's a .php site though the homepage is done in static html (with a php extension). It is well optimized in a similar format (no duplicate content though) to other high ranking sites I have. It has a lot of directory listings and one link from a PR8 site in Google. We implemented a 301 redirect about 40 days ago from the URL without the "www" to the URL with the "www".

Has anyone solved this issue so far? Will it stabilize with time?


5+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 5:42 pm on Apr 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a 6 year old content rich website which has been #2 listed for about 4 of those years.
April 1 it dropped 2 positions while portal sites and Shopping.com type sites (with nothing but black hat techniques) moved up into my position.

Now my site "Ping Pongs" (yes, tennis is ok too) in and out of the web search results very few hours.
In #3 position, then gone, then back, then gone...FAULT!

What's up with these PhD goofs at Yahoo?


WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 6:03 pm on Apr 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

yea, same thing here... sort of.

One site had 1,200 pages indexed in Y! but never received more than 20-30 uniques/day. Then over the last week after doing a complete css overhaul, the traffic grew 30% or so per day. The thing is that during this growth and even now you can search every couple minutes and get old (us way down) or new (us way up) results. It's definitely ping-ponging right now, but for the most part it just seems like a shift between two specific data sets.


10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 8:05 pm on Apr 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep, I've seen this too. It seems to be particularly random with a newly launched site. Just looks like two totally different sets of data, or a fluctuation between different algos.

However, I've seen it calm down after a while ... again for no reason.


10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 1:13 am on Apr 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

My site was #1 for a competive term for about the last 3 years and recently dropped to #6. Everybody else just sort of moved up the ladder. It's the first time I've seen it budge since it was included in the directory.


WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3309 posted 6:12 am on Apr 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I feel like breaking my tennis racquet on Yahoo's head.

Nice to know people are the same boat as I am :)

From a few tests, the sites are not banned, just very unstable serps.

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