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How to get rid of yahoo penalty?
chokan




msg:838051
 9:10 am on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

If a site disappears from Yahoo search, how to get the listing back?

 

irritated




msg:838052
 12:53 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you were banned, you wont get back in no matter what the cause of your banning. Innocent until proven guilty has no merit in Y!

deluxcougar




msg:838053
 8:50 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good luck Chokan. I've been out of yahoo since Nov '04 and have been desperately trying to clean up our sites. I have gotten rid of any and all problems and Yahoo still says I'm in violation of their guidelines.

I'd start praying real hard. :)

robotsdobetter




msg:838054
 9:00 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo! is just like Google, you won't get back in. I suggest that you start planing a new web site and have the site with the (If it really does have one) penalty redirect to the new site.

deluxcougar




msg:838055
 9:19 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo also suggest that you search for an obscure phrase from your site to see if you are still in but only penalized. You'll probably only show up for obscure search phrases until you fix the problem but at least you know there is still hope.

zeus




msg:838056
 10:33 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmm you dont miss much when you are not listed on Yahoo, so dont start to cry and with all there scrapers included, plus all those url only listed, I just say dont wast your time on a engine that is not worth it.

I do like yahoos news and service.

robotsdobetter




msg:838057
 10:37 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just say dont wast your time on a engine that is not worth it
They send to much traffic for any webmaster to forget them for now.
deluxcougar




msg:838058
 10:48 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Boohoo. I'll take every bit of traffic I can get. I have always gotten conversions and traffic from Boo-hoo. I mean Yahoo (oops).

They may not be my number one source of traffic but I'll take Yahoo's traffic any time.

johntang




msg:838059
 11:17 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo!'s April Fools joke dropped my internal site links from over 11,000 to 1,200 today. I have a 13,000 page website and had just climbed to 11,000 links from <1,000 in Jan05.

The worse part; this was across the board for all major search engines other than Google where there has been no change.

StupidScript




msg:838060
 11:26 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

deluxcougar:
Yahoo still says I'm in violation of their guidelines

How the heck did you get an answer that was that explicit? All I can get from YST is a link to the FAQs and guidelines with no comment on what is really going on.

chokan




msg:838061
 12:36 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

robotsdobetter

You means that a penalty site will not come back forever. Is that right?

deluxcougar




msg:838062
 12:42 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

STUPIDSCRIPT

Yahoo wrote that their re-review process takes several weeks, and they could not give specific details about the reasons for penalization.

They also wrote that the site does not comply with Yahoo!'s Content Policy Guidelines:
[help.yahoo.com...]

Every time I make updates to my site that I feel should put my site in compliance with their guidelines I re-submit. The responses are usually the same but sometimes vary slightly.

[edited by: tedster at 7:58 pm (utc) on May 17, 2005]
[edit reason] paraphrase email quotes [/edit]

irritated




msg:838063
 3:27 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Every time I make updates to my site that I feel should put my site in compliance with their guidelines I re-submit. The responses are usually the same but sometimes vary slightly.

Exactly - they dont have any intentions of adding you or I or anyone that has been banned. To some extent theyd have to admit they were wrong and they are never going to do that.

My site(s) have been scraped and duplicated to beat hell since I have ranked in the top 10 in Google for nearly 3 years. Every unethical trick you can think of to take advantage of our hard work has been done.

Now Y! wants to remove us for something someone else has done. IF it wasnt the scapers it was our competitors spamming support against us. We are 100% in compliance with those Y! deletion guidelines, yet we have no listing other than our index page which wont come up in any search!

Tough luck for us I reckon.

chokan




msg:838064
 3:59 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is there any methods to revive website?
I four website not get cloaking and excessive seo,
We can't do anything rather than waiting and waiting, really?

robotsdobetter




msg:838065
 4:12 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, your not getting back in there. Start a new web site. They will not forgive or whatever and let you back in. It's been like this for years and nothing has changed and it won't change now.

pmc2001




msg:838066
 5:27 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi All,

If a site has been penalized br yahoo and banned, tell me why is the robot keeps on crawling the site. By the way, it is possible to get back in yahoo if penalized. Fix and clean your site and it will get back on. They claim to have a real person to review not if a site has bee banned. You should be really scared if inktomi slurp stop coming. Be patiient and clean up your site. After all, Yahoo is not the only search engine out there.

alphacooler




msg:838067
 5:38 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

how does one tell if they have been penalized?

jaffstar




msg:838068
 9:49 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have e-mailed yahoo several times, I was not even lucky to get an auto resonder.

All my new sites are doing well on Yahoo :)

The big established ones are getting hit. So many theories......

jdwaverly




msg:838069
 2:20 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

To tell if you've been penalized:

Enter the following:

site:mydomain.com

If ONLY your homepage comes up, you've been penalized.

I've been reading these forums for a while and these are the most common reasons for a penalty:

Too much Affiliate content (how much is too much? no one knows!)

Excessive cross linking with another site

Keyword spamming

Other SEO techniques like doorway pages, different content for spider versus visitor, etc.

It appears that a site wide penalty may be triggered automatically when your site passes some threshold, making your pages suddenly disappear from the index

Some people report that SOME penalties go away automatically when they "clean up" their site.

Others had a penalty lifted after contacting Yahoo.

Others say that once you have a site penalty it's an uphill battle to get re-included i.e.

You're Guilty until you can prove yourself innocent.

AND you need to find someone at Yahoo who will listen,
since most could care less and just send you back the standard email blurb.

deluxcougar




msg:838070
 2:48 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

JDWaverly:
"Too much Affiliate content"

What do you mean when you say too much affiliate content?

PMC2001:

Welcome to WebmasterWorld

alphacooler




msg:838071
 4:22 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

"To tell if you've been penalized:
Enter the following:

site:mydomain.com

If ONLY your homepage comes up, you've been penalized. "

DAMN! What if your sites are only 1-1.5mo old and they still only have index page showing up with site:mydomain.com command? Still think its penalized?

martinibuster




msg:838072
 4:28 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't say "Keyword spamming" is a reason for getting banned. I almost choked on my breakfast cereal reading that. Woo hoo.

As far as too much affiliate content, you are also off target there too. It's not that it's affiliate content that is the issue, it's just that the content is crap. By crap I mean that it is not original content, i.e. it's just a FEED... or worse.

It makes me cringe everytime someone posts asking why Slurp doesn't like their new website, because the post usually starts like this: "I uploaded 5,000 web pages two weeks ago, Slurp came around, but I don't see any of the pages in the results Is Slurp broken?"

Gimme a break.

Any decent search engine is going to filter your five thousand pages of duplicate non-informational content and make sure it never sees the light of day.

Of course, to every rule there is always an exception.

outland88




msg:838073
 5:00 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was talking to a fellow who used, all three, Overture, Yahoo Express, and Site Match to get his penalized site back in Yahoo. He said the irony was the exact same pages he was penalized for suddenly became acceptable once he paid.

By the way Yahoo has only been using itís own index algo for about a year. It was previously supplied by Google with a few Yahoo changes. I was in it for years.

pmc2001




msg:838074
 5:17 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Was his site was accepted in sitematch and was it back in Yahoo's index results?

simplistechs




msg:838075
 11:27 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

What about paid inclusion? What if you pay a listing service? How can they kick you out then?

Just a thought...I'm in the same boat with 2 sites.

irritated




msg:838076
 4:17 am on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

it doesnt matter why you were banned - if you were you wont be getting back in and if by chance you do - consider yourself the luckest person on the face of Y!

johntang




msg:838077
 6:47 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a Yahoo!Store using Yahoo! Merchant Solutions (MS). This causes two internal Yahoo! URLs (store.foo.com and site.foo.com). Only one can have a "safe" redirect from "www.foo.com", the other URL is exposed.

On "store" I am restricted to what I can change, on "site" I can be creative. There is only one link on all pages from "store" to "site", while I have rebuilt the navigation panel of "store" on all "site" pages

Google seems happy with my cross linking, but no other search engine. Should I abandon "site" for SEO?

kiladen




msg:838078
 1:21 pm on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

"If a site disappears from Yahoo search, how to get the listing back? "

- Fastest way, buy a new domain and host site on a different i.p address. Also, change wording of site significantly so other search engines won't see site as duplicate content. Then reupload and start acquiring links all over.

irritated




msg:838079
 6:42 pm on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Fastest way, buy a new domain and host site on a different i.p address. Also, change wording of site significantly so other search engines won't see site as duplicate content. Then reupload and start acquiring links all over.

Yes, sadly it seems Y! can totally distroy established sites/companies at will without any recourse - this is a tragedy! When companies like Y! and Google can have so much impact on companies - they need to be regulated and held to higher standards!

deluxcougar




msg:838080
 8:48 pm on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I hear people talking about it being really bad if inktomi's spider stops visiting...why is this so bad?

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