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Yahoo's re-review process
their response
2_much




msg:828137
 1:33 am on Feb 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

So I used the re-review process with a site that only has the home page listed.

I specified that the site was listed in the index, but only the home page.

Their response is that the re-review process may take several WEEKS, to check the index to see if my domain is listed (which it is - just the home page), and that they will not communicate with me further.

I've never seen such an odd approach.

Has anybody used their re-review form successfully?

[add.yahoo.com...]

 

johnlim




msg:828138
 5:56 am on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I also receive such form. Anybody successfully reindex the sites after fill the form?

giga




msg:828139
 7:13 am on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

We used the rereview process, got the same email response, and still have NOT seen our listing in the results (other than the main page) after a month now...

Abigail




msg:828140
 4:48 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I got a survey to fill in, basically asking if the problem had been resolved......I tried to be as nice as I could and said "No it had not" that came about 4 days after filing the re-review request form. I haven't noticed any more than usual slurp activity - same as before, just index in the SERPS.

The Contractor




msg:828141
 5:16 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, their first email was canned stating the reasons why a site is dropped (spam techniques). Even though it stated do not respond to this email I did anyways going over each of their points and stating how the site in question did none of these things. The person (girls name, real or not)responded and told me to ask for a re-review and include my points/statements. This was on Jan. 28, 2005. They have gone from having 2 pages in the index to 49 now. They crawl at least 100-200 pages every day (sometimes thousands) and always have (even when the site was banned). At one time they had 5-6K pages in. I still don't rank for anything. The site has been in the Yahoo directory for a couple years I guess.

irritated




msg:828142
 7:18 pm on Apr 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

If they arent going to index more than my homepage I might as well ban slurp from my sites all together!

It seems this review form is just a rug pulled over dirt below - something to keep us satisfied or thinking they are doing something when they are not.

ole1kanobe




msg:828143
 8:39 pm on Apr 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

It seems this review form is just a rug pulled over dirt below

Is this really much of a surprise from an engine that wants hundreds of dollars just to consider if your page is worthy of being in their listings?
Sorry, long time Y! malcontent.

irritated




msg:828144
 3:37 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is this really much of a surprise from an engine that wants hundreds of dollars just to consider if your page is worthy of being in their listings?

Though totally inexcusable I agree that its not at all a surprise.

I believe any site such as Yahoo or Google that can have such a huge impact on companies should be regulated to the max! Anything and everything they do that directly effects the money other people make should be closely watched. As far as I know they answer to know one but themselves.

If they are going to screw over sites without recourse I think it is time some one step up and put them back in line!

jaffstar




msg:828145
 7:10 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just did a site:widget.com, and also just found my homepage listed as well :(

Did a site search in Google, 500 pages retunred.

Does this mean that your site has a penalty?

I am also running a clean shop. Any ideas why this happens? Is it automated or manual?

esllou




msg:828146
 9:55 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I got back in using that form. Took four days and a couple of back and forth e-mails.

YMMV

Bess




msg:828147
 10:21 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

What form please?

esllou




msg:828148
 8:25 pm on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

bess, have you looked in the first post on this thread?

soapystar




msg:828149
 8:57 pm on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Took four days and a couple of back and forth e-mails.

staggering on all acounts..that you got back in...that you got a reply..that you found someone willing to exchange correspondence..that you got back in within 4 days when yahoo themselves say it takes months.....

would you care to expand on your statement further?

esllou




msg:828150
 2:29 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

wrote about it in message 22 in this thread a while back:

[webmasterworld.com...]

although no-one seemed that interested in it at the time. :-¦

soapystar




msg:828151
 5:08 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

doesnt sound like the same situation at all. Sounds like a filter that you overcame with a twidle of your site. Most guys are talking about bans that are demotion penalties that cant be lifted. It might even be no more than coincidence but whatever it was that got you back in your experience is out of step with the vast majority. But at least your story gives others hope.

esllou




msg:828152
 12:10 am on Apr 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I most certainly WAS banned. I was even told so. There were two instances of my homepage and nothing else, going down from 5000 pages two months earlier.

When I asked why 5000 had become 2, I was told the site was under a penalty and was given the URL of a page which described something akin to Yahoo's "good site" expectations list.

irritated




msg:828153
 1:23 am on Apr 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

got a canned response tonight ... was sent to a form..

[add.yahoo.com...]

"Your message has been sent to Yahoo! Search Support. Thank you for your review submission. Please note that the re-review process takes several weeks to complete, and you will not receive notified whether your site has been added back into the Yahoo! Search Index. "

... will not receive notified? and these are the morons reviewing our sites?

Our site was removed without just cause - now we have to deal with canned responses and BS forms to remove a ban that shouldnt be in place to begin with.

HOW can someone have such a huge impact on so many people without recourse? WHY are they not being regulated by someone instead of being allowed to run amuck?

Very irritated ...

jaffstar




msg:828154
 7:19 am on Apr 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

got a canned response tonight ... was sent to a form..

Got no canned response, just send another e-mail.

Weird?

jdwaverly




msg:828155
 2:34 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Don't even bother contacting Yahoo if you have a site that has commercial or affiliate advertising content.

It doesn't matter if you have other content that is substantial and helpful.

Yahoo is wiping such sites from their index on a regular basis and doesn't let them back in.

Freedom




msg:828156
 4:19 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sounds like it would be:
1. Faster
2. Less hassle
3. More control

if a webmaster made a mirror of their site, put .htaccess and robots.txt to keep Google out of the Yahoo site, and Yahoo out of the Google site,

- then to go through this belittling process. That's what i did and it worked for me, but I realize this is not an option for everyone.

ole1kanobe




msg:828157
 4:48 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Now THAT's an interesting approach.
I could definately see that working well, and it would allow you to optimze each mirror for that certain engine. Kind of a glorified doorway page concept.
Did you just mirror it and use sub domains?

jaffstar




msg:828158
 5:02 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

My subdomain is not even listed in Yahoo, both are hit!

Freedom




msg:828159
 7:27 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Did you just mirror it and use sub domains?

No, I just bought a whole new domain and designated it for Yahoo.

irritated




msg:828160
 1:10 am on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Don't even bother contacting Yahoo if you have a site that has commercial or affiliate advertising content.
It doesn't matter if you have other content that is substantial and helpful.

Yahoo is wiping such sites from their index on a regular basis and doesn't let them back in.

Thats a CROCK if its true - that my site was deleted for either of those reasons giving us no recourse - that IS BULL$hit! If they are going to remove a few, or many - to make it a fair level playing ground - they need to delete ALL!

I for one will NEVER deal with anything Y! again!

jdwaverly




msg:828161
 5:01 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo reps have publicly stated that they don't want Affiliate sites in their index...it's a fact.

You can have other VERY useful content...it doesn't matter.

Yahoo apparently handpicks a few sites to allow them to remain in the index, usually large sites (with legal teams) the others...bye bye.

As far as fairness...no it isn't fair. In most cases it's the small sites owned by individuals that are getting burned.
But since they're not a public entity.. they don't have be fair.

ole1kanobe




msg:828162
 5:18 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

But aren't they a public entity because you can purchase stock in their company?

jdwaverly




msg:828163
 5:45 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sorry, I meant a public service.
They are a for profit company offering a free service.
They have the right to decide WHAT that free service offers.

AND we as webmasters have the right to choose where we will spend our advertising dollars.

The greatest Internet advertising growth(and potential Yahoo earnings) is from small companies...precisely the market Yahoo is hurting with these willy nilly bans.

Vote with your wallet.

WallyWorld




msg:828164
 8:42 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yahoo, has always been a bunch of egotists with a sever case of "holier than though".

I think if enough people <snip>

[edited by: martinibuster at 9:19 pm (utc) on April 9, 2005]
[edit reason] Please no calls to actions. See TOS. Thanks for understanding. [/edit]

The Contractor




msg:828165
 9:05 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Update: well I'm down to having 5 pages from a high of maybe 700 hundred a week ago. I hold out no hope whatsoever with Yahoo. I think it's merely coming down to if you are not willing to pay for many terms in Yahoo they are simply not going to let you in. Besides, won't be long and you will be competing with Yahoo's services in most areas and that's the direction I see Yahoo going. I've known quite a few people that ranked well in quite a few areas until Yahoo decided to go after that market with their services - they just knock the competition out unless they are making money from you ;)

martinibuster




msg:828166
 9:46 pm on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>I've known quite a few people that ranked well in quite a few areas until Yahoo decided to go after that market with their services...

And I know quite a few who beat Yahoo in all their markets. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. I have a five month old website that ranks #2... right above Keyword.Yahoo.com (#3), but below IndustryLeader.com (#1) for an industry query. What does that mean? Not much, it's anecdotal.

But I'm sure we can come up with a post-theory-theory to explain that away. Let's see... hm.

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