Brett_Tabke
msg:845693 | 5:26 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
is the url displayed identicle?
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8cool
msg:845694 | 5:37 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Same for me. URLs are identical but 2nd listing contains copyright information in the description
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agerhart
msg:845695 | 5:52 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
>>>>Or what does it mean? Penalty.
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cleanup
msg:845696 | 8:39 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
"Penalty" Why do you say that? are you sure?
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internetheaven
msg:845697 | 1:52 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| >>>>Or what does it mean? Penalty. |
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I'm afraid that all evidence points to that. I have only one site that displays this phenomenon and has been doing so for almost a year now. It is also the only site of mine ever to receive a penalty from Yahoo which it has been carrying for almost two years. Considering it was a programming error I think a two year ban is a little harsh but hey, what do I know .........
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PCInk
msg:845698 | 2:00 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I have the same problem, but it seems slightly different. The home page is listed twice, but so is a sub-page. Searching for terms on these pages brings up reasonable results, so I am not sure if it is a penalty or not. I can't see how I have been given a penalty at all except that we had two domains pointing to the same site - one domain has now been set up differently to frame the other domain. Possible duplicate content - however, crawling should remove older pages and the duplicate should disappear. No other engine seems to have a problem indexing the site. Slurp still crawls the site regularly - usually every day, so it does not seem to have a problem pulling pages from the site. The extra sub-page listed will change every now and again - so one week I have index.html and page1.html, next week I may have index.html and page2.html. I have changed the frame to a 301 redirect and we will see what happens in the coming months.
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cleanup
msg:845699 | 5:15 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Thats what I mean. With all the problems Yahoo! seems to be having constructing an extensive index and the fact that even though Slurp comes around constantly they still seem to be having a hell of a time getting the pages in the index, and then there are errors too of which the double listing is only just one. So, I am not saying it is not a penalty just that with all the problems Y! is having it may well be only an error. By the way I have an honest content site that was banned by Yahoo! when they switched over results at the begining of last year. I decided to start from scratch and make a Yahoo! only version of the site. Since doing that I have seen varying numbers of the pages in the index and at the moment I see only 3. Really pathetic after all the work I put in. Anyway.. maybe one day Yahoo will get it together. The only positive I can say about the Yahoo! index is that it is very stable (static) and in an ever changing world sometimes thats nice.....;)
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sid560
msg:845700 | 3:38 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Brett, "is the url displayed identicle? " yes, the URLs are identical. yes, the site is banned. Maybe by putting the index page in twice, that is Y's signal that the site is banned. I even closed my account with the directory and asked them to get my site out of there. They closed my account but my site is still in the directory.
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Brett_Tabke
msg:845701 | 4:07 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I've seen where the url looks so close to identical, but missing the trailing in one of the listings "/". widget.com/
vs:
widget.com
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2_much
msg:845702 | 6:09 am on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0) |
The problem is that if the domain has a penalty and you build a "yahoo only" version of your site, it won't help. The penalty carries penalty. Have you tried writing them or the re-inclusion request? It really does sound like a penalty to me. Sites that have good inbound links will naturally have lots of pages listed. If your site is being spidered but only has a few pages listed, it clearly indicates a problem.
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cleanup
msg:845703 | 11:39 pm on Feb 19, 2005 (gmt 0) |
2much, I started a brand new domain with very similar name. Rewritten the whole and got about 50 good qualily links from other sites also listed in Yahoo! I have no back links from my other sites. I only allow Yahoo! in there no other Spider. Google knows about the whole site and lists all the pages but without content of course. I wrote to Yahoo! a number of times about the original and never received a reply. The original site is in the Y! directory. The new site has the index page and two others in the index. but does not rank for anything much. a couple of months ago Yahoo! had got about six pages in total now it is down to two/three. I have ensured deep linking in some of the back links. I don't really know what else I can do?
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cleanup
msg:845704 | 5:53 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Well, just to be fair to Yahoo. I note today that Yahoo! has about 15 of my pages indexed now which is a small improvement over the 2 or3 that it had managed over the last six months. This improvement was after a month of frantic activity on the part of Slurp. Anyway I have still to rank on my keywords that is maybe due to my own crap optimization or (hopefully) Yahoo! takes a while to catch up a make the page content searchable.
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