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SERPS on Saturday...
lee_sufc




msg:839981
 9:08 pm on Nov 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

On Saturday, I noticed that after MONTHS my site had suddenyl gone up about 20 spaces in Yahoo serps. However, after Saturday the results are back to how they were...unfortunately. Is this a sign of results to come or is there another explanation?

 

epsrx




msg:839982
 1:20 am on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

lee_sufc,

I had the same thing with a couple of sites, jumped more than 10 positions and then went way back after Saturday/Sunday (Oct 30-31).

Also, a couple of my new sites showed up in Yahoo on Friday/Saturday, but then all have gone.

I don't know what this means?

mark1615




msg:839983
 4:05 am on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

You guys are my heroes. Thanks for posting. I have been pulling my hair out. I made some changed about 10 days ago and then had a site jump over 600 places to get to the second page in Y for our main keyword last Friday-Sun. I made a little (TINY) tweak on Sunday to try and get it to creep up to the first page and bam - Monday morning it was gone - back to the old place. This coincided with Slurp activity dropping way off on my site from the norm. I was convinced I had done something terribly wrong. I still don't know what the answer is but knowing it wasn't just me suggests it wasn't me. Someone else on another thread suggested that I look at the cached page. I just did it and it is the old page - from 10 days ago like nothing had happened. I think there is something going on with their cache. Also, they have two indexes. Beyond that I am still looking for answers.

webmktg




msg:839984
 5:49 am on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo SERPs are changing in frequent intervals.

epsrx




msg:839985
 10:03 am on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

mark1615,

SLURP activity has also dropped on my new sites and even the ones already listed in Y! but are far back in the SERPs. I will wait and see what happens. Keep me posted if anything changes from your end.

GerBot




msg:839986
 1:03 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing big changes across 8-10 different search markets today.

I'm seeing Google style authority sites moving to the top and affiliate cookie cutter sites dropping.

has anyone else seen this?

I've also seen bigger sites starting to take over niche searches where highly targeted sites once ruled.
These bigger sites don't always mention the exact phrase either.

Why do I feel like this is Yahoo's answer to Google's Florida update.

GerBot




msg:839987
 2:05 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

OK - looking at the cache and it seems they are mixing some old information with new.

I'm going to have to stop looking and wait till tomorrow.

mark1615




msg:839988
 5:38 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

SLURP has started coming back to the site but is taking very little info when it comes - we are still at a fraction of the activity last month. However, maybe they were taking to much data last month because they were getting ready for the changes we are now seeing.

I haven't been able to tell yet why some of the sites moved ahead. We had a page at #6 for an important term - #1 and #2 are the mfg - and they moved a site in German ahead of us. I can take it when competition just flat out wins - but a German site. How useful is that?

pinkopanter




msg:839989
 6:06 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I feel disapointed too. My site was a leader in a major kyword till this morning. When i wake up and checked my hair got yahoo style. From 1st position for over an year this morning i am on 39th.

Three months ago the same site was a lider on one more major keword. Since then it just simply disapeared. None, nada...

pinkopanter




msg:839990
 6:13 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

while i was writing previous post my site moved down below, now 42nd. It is folling like a rock

Crow187




msg:839991
 6:14 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

It does look like really old results mixed with more current ones. Some keywords i'm where I was earlier, others i'm nowhere to be found and some spanish site and portuguese site are #1 and #2.

If this is an attempt at it's own Florida algo things aren't looking good for a lot of new sites who are trying to make it.

However i've seen such movements before, sites being all over the place before settling back in.

Let's hope it's one of those

cabowabo




msg:839992
 6:26 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

From what I can see, keywords above the threshold are sticking, below are moving, but more so than usual.

CaboWabo

mark1615




msg:839993
 9:47 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

cabowabo - What is "the threshold?"

GerBot




msg:839994
 2:54 pm on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

For one of my sites I'm in a small niche market.
My site has gone from #1 to #150.

50 of the sites above me are actually linking to me.

I'm really starting to think this is a 'downdate' with most of the link information gone.

There is no way this can be an update

Essex_boy




msg:839995
 3:42 pm on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why do I feel like this is Yahoo's answer to Google's Florida update. --- becasue they have launched their own 24 hour update pay for inclusion and click program.

Thats why.

The life is being choked out of the web by mega corporations that once pretended to be your friend.

However, my site has lept up up out of nowhere to 16 so im happy (for once)

foxtunes




msg:839996
 11:27 pm on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yep noticing a lot of movement on keyword combos that have remained stale for months.

foxtunes




msg:839997
 12:33 pm on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

One of my sites took a severe spanking on yahoo this weekend. On the keywords I monitor, the top 10 spots just looks like a spamfest. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

epsrx




msg:839998
 3:01 pm on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

My listed sites disappeared although nothing has changed.

I noticed the cash for most of the sites went back to the older version of my sites.

Cannot do anything except to wait and see....

GerBot




msg:839999
 6:48 pm on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the post epsrx

makes me feel better that someone elses site has an old chach and has dropped.

cabowabo




msg:840000
 3:48 am on Nov 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

cabowabo - What is "the threshold?"

Without rambling forever, look at the threshold as the separation between the money phases (competitive two word phrases) and the 3-5 word phrases with little competition.

The SERPs vary tremendously above and below the threshold.

CaboWabo

Nuttakorn




msg:840001
 4:24 am on Nov 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

My website has been disappeared from Yahoo. Previously my ranking is ranked in top 20 in top position keyword. But now it is disappeared from that list. I don't know why. I haven't changed any code. They list in that position long time. Does Yahoo doing the big update or changing the algorithms like Google?

GerBot




msg:840002
 7:11 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well my cache has updated now but I'm still ranked +200.
Very odd - I mean, if this is my new spot then fine, but why did I not drop slowly?

Previously I've seen sites move 10 or so places or some sites even banned but this is not like anything I've seen before. For what it is worth I have a number of sites this is just happening to one

I can't see any websites that have dropped my links or any drastic changes.

Lucky for my search.msn.com still has me ranking which is my only source of traffic except from small volume terms in Google.

foxtunes




msg:840003
 10:01 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem on one site. Numerous number 1 terms on yahoo then on saturday a drop to two or three pages back. The sites above have far less backlinks, but seem to have higher keyword density. Previously I'd relied mainly on anchor text links for my high ranking.....Now I'll wait a week or two, if there is no change I'll increase keyword density.

seoArt




msg:840004
 3:21 am on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same thing here, keyword phrases I have been steadily climbing to #1 for since Yahoo started providing their own results; I went down to #8 for Saturday.

What's going on here? I have some of the best quality backlinks you can ask for (Universities and National Organizations in the field) along with excellent content.

Wow, hope things go back to normal soon.

arkyt




msg:840005
 3:43 am on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

somethings going on ... I have a few sites that were pulled and NOW they are back in!

I had figured they were dropped because I hadnt renewed my PFI - now either this is a marketing ploy or they have fixed their glitch! Either way I hope I stay in ;)

sid560




msg:840006
 6:59 pm on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just notice, my home page is back in. But that is all. And not showing up in serps, just when I put in domain name.

Maybe this a sign of good things to come.

webmktg




msg:840007
 4:25 pm on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi sid560

I'm experiencing the same thing.

jrs_66




msg:840008
 10:20 pm on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

My site's indexed pages jumped from ~900 to nearly 10,000 on Sat. Problem is, the newly indexed pages still can't be found anywhere in a search- even a very specific search. Anyone seen this before?

RFranzen




msg:840009
 11:02 pm on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

JRS, I saw something like that when I moved my stuff from ISP-hosted pages to my own domain. After a period of time, a "site:" search could find the pages on the new domain, but using normal search words kept returning the old URLs. Eventually (after completely shutting down the old pages (which had been auto-forwarding)), Yahoo! began showing my new pages.

-- Rich

foxtunes




msg:840010
 12:05 am on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

After taking a George Foreman-esque hit on the 5th, all my old #1 rankings returned on the 22...A week after the drop I toyed with the idea of tweaking keyword density, however I was still #1 on google and msn so instead of noodling, I just left the site as it was....I'm glad I did.

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