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BIG changes in the SERPS
TinkyWinky




msg:847086
 7:20 pm on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Recent traffic shows a change in my sites 68,000 pages in Yahoo (Sunday) down to today's 320....

I know there have been some massive changes across the Travel section recently, but this is either a mass SERPs clearout or a penalty for moi.

Any one else had similar experiences in the last 48 hours or so?

 

CaryissoVery




msg:847087
 7:25 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

12 of my 14 websites were totally dropped from the Yahoo index on the morning of Oct. 5. No apparent reason for being dropped, and no apparent differences in the two sites that were not dropped.

TinkyWinky




msg:847088
 7:56 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Interesting - maybe it's only a shuffle or maybe that's our lot?

Which areas were you covering with the 'banned' sites?

GerBot




msg:847089
 10:30 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo has been changing daily for me across 5-8 different markets.

Don't panic unless you are gone for two days in a row.

however - I feel there are two indexes with one being slightly ahead of the other so if you are off one it may become permanent. Although I've been off some indexes only to be included right before that index version becomes the major/older index.

Either way Yahoo are calculating their rankings using a much larger pool of sites/links recently and you can expect the serps to be dancing around quite a lot.

For me Yahoo is seeing the world as black or white. If you cross the line you are gone, if you donít you are fine.

Dayo_UK




msg:847090
 10:37 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a half decent number of pages indexed for some of the sites I am involved with now.

Although I will be very old before they get anywhere near crawling my sites on a level that Google, Ask or Gigablast(!) (and it appears the new MSN) have.

I agree that they seem to be switching between two indexes.

CaryissoVery




msg:847091
 4:23 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

My sites that were dropped were across a range of subjects. I have 5 sites devoted to classic cars. There is no fundamental difference between the five sites other than the range of cars that they focus on. Link structure, html, etc are virtually identical. Three of these sites were dropped and two are still there performing the same as ever.

My only objectionable practice, according to the Yahoo guidelines, is that I used to have my sites heavily interlinked (out of sheer ignorance, I've been doing this for less than a year now). When I found out what a no-no that was, I removed all the cross linking between my sites almost 2 months ago. Since Yahoo is so slow to crawl a site, I'm wondering if they are still seeing all the cross linking that is now gone. If so, does anyone know if appealing their decision to drop my sites is even a possibility?

zeus




msg:847092
 7:23 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have noticed the same, my site is also gone from the search, but is still listed in the directory. I use no illigal stuff, but I think it is problems they have that some pages just drop out of there index without any reason, because I have seen this before on yahoo and MSN, so it must be a inktomi problem.

Try to see if your sites show up on overture and hotbot the inktomi search, my site is there.

zeus

P.s if I do a link check, it shows 2000 sites linking to my site, what about yours any changes there.

TinkyWinky




msg:847093
 8:59 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Seems like there is some kind of pattern - anyone had their site cut massively only to see it re-appear slow but sure.

Almost like a re-indexing?

Buddha




msg:847094
 11:06 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

This happened to me also. I have a handful of sites and 1 just disappeared for it's top keywords.

There is no real difference in seo techniques used between this and the other sites.

sid560




msg:847095
 2:35 am on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same here. My site had been out of the search results all Summer. About a month ago started getting indexed again. A few pages a day. Up to 110 pages indexed and showing up well.

Then this AM - not showing but four pages but not home page. When I search for site:domain.com a bunch of sites that have linked, framed, or used my url on there page.

Oh, well back to square one.

By the way, it is a real estate. Just like travel, real estate sites are the industry Yahoo likes to beat up on.

eyezshine




msg:847096
 6:07 am on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

One of my sites had over 11,000 pages indexed and last night it dropped to 1,700 pages indexed and traffic dropped by 2/3rds or more.

All the rest of my sites never changed?

webmktg




msg:847097
 4:18 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I can't see any major change in SERPs.

zeus




msg:847098
 6:45 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I also dont see any big changes if any, but there are some sites missing and it is not just realastate and travel

sid560




msg:847099
 8:43 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Even though my pages were dropped, I noticed they are still being spidered by Yahoo, unlike last time they were dropped. It seems they just switched over to the old version. Hopefully will return in a day or two to the version they were using.

angiolo




msg:847100
 10:33 am on Oct 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

> I can't see any major change in SERPs.

Me too.

cleanup




msg:847101
 12:38 pm on Oct 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

Changes, Yes

Major No.

Sites in and Sites out. But relative positions seem unchanged.

zeus




msg:847102
 10:29 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Any news here, have any of you got back into the serps, Im still out.

hermosa




msg:847103
 12:26 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Nope, I am still out. My old domain with the noindex,follow tag is in though. I think it's because I incorrectly listed it as noindex, follow with a space....the way that Google INSTRUCTS us to list it. :mad: What is really bizarre is that in the categories and for the keywords of importance to my site, the caches showing up are REALLY old, sometimes 2 - 3 years old.

CaryissoVery




msg:847104
 1:07 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

My sites are still totally out of the index. I have emailed Yahoo several times and (big surprise) have gotten no response whatsoever.

TinkyWinky




msg:847105
 7:52 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Out of interest - anyone else that has lost pages and positins coming up for renewal on Inktomi or FAST PFI?

All gone now - so obviously picked up a ban of some kind...with original content and over 20,000 hand reviewed UK sites I guess it's not enough for the new Yahoo!

eyezshine




msg:847106
 7:55 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just had another site vanish today? I know I am not doing anything wrong. I build them by the book.

But I still see Slurp spidering like crazy every day. Maybe they are doing their fall cleaning?

sem4u




msg:847107
 8:15 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Sometimes sites just disappear for no good reason, especially for new sites. Just check again in a day or two and it should be back in.

TinkyWinky




msg:847108
 8:36 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

what about sites with 9 years history and 65,000 pages LOLOLOL *hysterically* ;)

zeus




msg:847109
 11:26 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

The sites I have seen are gone for 2-3 month then they are back, it dossent matter if new or old. I still think it is just a error in Yahoo, so some pages just are gone, I dont think any here has got a ban. It is a inktomi problem, because I bet some of us which sites are gone still have there site listed in the directory.

zeus

dazz




msg:847110
 11:29 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

nail on the head zeus!

TinkyWinky




msg:847111
 12:27 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

So you are saying that if you are still listed in the Yahoo directory then there's a 2 - 3 month gap and then sites re-appear.

IMHO I find that a bit hard to believe - removing sites for more than a few days simply sounds like a ban and therefore the site would be blacklisted... I doubt it would be a 3 month blacklist as such?

zeus




msg:847112
 2:37 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

TinkyWinky, No I say that even if there sites is no more in the Yahoo search (inktomi) most of us are still in the directory.

The blacklist think is simply a joke to me, I bet most of us have been listed/spidered at the same time way back and sometimes when they make changes tothe serps, we are gone because of something technical or software related.

soapystar




msg:847113
 4:06 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

banned and still getting requests to renew my directory listing....the nice thing about Yahoo is that if anything in life starts to really get you down..then you can always think about their broand range of double standards and their hollier than though public face...it really does make me laugh..thanks Yahoo for putting a smile on my face....

:)

zeus




msg:847114
 10:40 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Im not sure but I got my first hit from yahoo search since the site was gone from inktomi, but when I went back to the search on yahoo, the site was gone, but it could look like that they have found the lost sites and they slowly are comming back, any of you have some hits, witin the las 30min.

zeus

soapystar




msg:847115
 7:51 am on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

it cant be a case of finding lost sites since most of us have told yahoo we exsist to be met with a suggestion to look at their (cough cough) guidelines.

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