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Removing a page from the Yahoo index
Can Site Match be used to speed up the process?
Robert Charlton




msg:822248
 6:41 am on Aug 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can Site Match be used to speed up the process of removing a page from the Yahoo index?

A friend would like to get a particular page removed as quickly as possible from Yahoo. The page contains statements defamatory to his company, and comes up #2 in Yahoo (crawler based search) for his company name.

The organization that put up the page has agreed to take it down, but doesn't know how to get it removed from the Yahoo (and also the Google) index. I'm guessing that simply removing the page and letting Yahoo get a 404 might take a while.

One thought I've had is that the organization might instead change the content of the page, keeping the same url, and submit the url via Site Match to get it crawled in 48 hours.

Can this be done (I've never used Site Match), and will it work?

Or... is there any other quick way of getting rid of a page?

 

seo_guy




msg:822249
 9:21 am on Aug 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Sitematch will get it recrawled quickly if the change the content that would work. However you could also ask them to mod_rewrite the URL to somewhere else or block yahoo in their robots.txt for that particular page

Robert Charlton




msg:822250
 7:53 pm on Aug 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

...However you could also ask them to mod_rewrite the URL to somewhere else or block yahoo in their robots.txt for that particular page

The issue isn't blocking Yahoo from spidering existing content. All the problematic content is on a single page, and that page can be entirely removed or changed.

The issue is updating Yahoo's index and getting the old data overwritten as quickly as possible. What's faster...

- dropping the page and free submitting to get a 404...
- changing the content but keeping the page and submitting the page to Site Match?

Can you just submit one page to Site Match? Its only function would be to overwrite the old data. Would they let you submit a page that just said "page content deleted"?

Tim




msg:822251
 7:14 am on Aug 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Robert,
The free add url is another option and will probably have a similar effect and may save you a few dollars. If that doesnt work Site Match may be a good idea.
Tim
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Span




msg:822252
 9:22 am on Aug 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Pages that are deleted should be served with a 410 Gone status, not with a 404.
My experience is Google understands a 410 really fast, Yahoo seems to need a few weeks to remove the page from their index.

Robert Charlton




msg:822253
 8:09 pm on Aug 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Tim - Thanks. With either free add url or with Site Match, which will be recognized faster - a dropped page or a changed page?

Span - Thank you as well. It's not my site, and I would bet that the organization whose site it is doesn't have a webmaster capable of setting up a 410, but I'm filing the thought away for reference. Just found this recent thread on the subject of 404/410s, possibly of interest...

Should I use 404 or 410 for GONE for HTTP 1.0 search spiders?
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