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yahoo shows links to my site but i'm gone in rankings
franckey9




msg:847185
 7:45 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've 3 site, which offer accomodation, hotels and general infos about one capital of East Europe Country.

A few weeks before Yahoos' swiching from Google to Inktomi, I was banned on Intkomi (before that my ranking were very good). Until now, i do not know exactly why.

What is interesting, I'm able to list links to my site on Yahoo with linksite: command. (approximately Yahoo counted 200 links). My site also apears after site: command (but there are only 10 sites, my site is in 8 language version, so there are approx. 400 pages).
However, I'm absolutly gone for any search with my keywords. In top 30 some pages apear which the only content related to search they have is link to my site (sic!).

I'm sick of that, I do not know what to do. I assume, that my site is listed in some "banned sites' database", which is extended to MSN, Altavista, AllTheWeb.

Slurb doesn't visit my site for months, I have only noticed some visits from Scooter/3.3 (but only few, for example MSN hits me 1174 and Scooter 4 (four) times).

I do not use any spam technics. I guess that crosslinks (user-orientated) beetwen my 3 sites (which are subdomains) might be considered as spam. But I do not think, that it is possible - algorithms won't be so stupid, a lot of well made sites have such links. I think that only reasonable explanation is editor's mistake.

All my sites have PR5 on Google.

Any idea. Tim help!

Franckey

 

fleet11




msg:847186
 12:39 pm on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have had that happen to me on two sites. Both very large sites that at one time had #1 or first page rankings but now I cannot find them under any searches. My pages are still indexed but not showing up under any searches. I am very confused. I am still in MSN thankfully. The second site dissapeared two days ago. I don't know when this happened to you but maybe their is some correlation.

atlrus




msg:847187
 10:42 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

brother,

I am in the top 10 results in ANY search engine, but Yahoo!
It shows 26,000 backlinks, it (Yahoo) crawles my home page at least 5 times a day (literally), and all I got was #28 for two days and now I am all gone again. Inktomi shows me as #6, Overture - #4, MSN - #5.

P.S. I have subpages showing in the Yahoo results.
I have tried anything to get answer from Yahoo, Yahoo_Mike, and everybody here, but still nothing!

twebdonny




msg:847188
 10:50 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same thing happened with us, and now after supposedly
being included and continually refresshed via sitematch, our site still does not appear. Best part of all is that those at Overture/Sitematch have no idea as to how to fix this after 3 weeks of phone calls and emails.

attard




msg:847189
 3:15 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same thing here. Popular site. Top in search engines for a lot of terms. Online for many years. Disappeared from Yahoo and MSN on March 18.

scurvydog




msg:847190
 4:19 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same thing here.

The paranoid conspiracy theorist in me is beginning to wonder if Yahoo is manually affecting the rankings of certain sites based on the industry they operate in. I know, I know. But it's the only working theory I've found so far that fits my particular situation.

One huge difference between Yahoo and Google is that Yahoo has significant revenue-generating internal operations in fields that are SEO/affiliate friendly (Yahoo Travel, Yahoo Real Estate, Yahoo Autos, Yahoo Shopping, etc.) Google doesn't have any direct monetary incentive at stake when ranking a site that offers auto quotes or travel information. Yahoo does.

If one were financially motivated and had broad, amorphous guidlines, one could manually penalize virtually any site for any number of unmentionable infractions.

I'd be curious to know what general field (I know we can't get into particulars) people are working in, who have encountered Yahoo penalties or inexplicable removals from SERPs. My affected site is for the US auto market.

attard




msg:847191
 6:33 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

My general field is small business and careers. But there are other business and career sites listed in the search results. So I doubt that any selective category blocking is at work for the industries we'd show up in.

scurvydog




msg:847192
 6:49 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Attard,

My site went missing a little over a month ago. Since that time other sites in my niche have also systematically started to go missing. It's not an algo issue, as all the affected sites have different variants of reasonably solid SEO work going on and have all ranked well recently in Yahoo.

To my eyes it appears that certain "successful" sites (that directly compete with Yahoo's in-house offerings in certain categories and niches) are systematically being penalized. This is happening over time, not all at once. So yes, of course, you'll find results for any search in any niche, filled with pages that compete with Yahoo's offerings. In my own niche, though, those results that you find are increasingly inferior to the quality results that are being driven out.

I suppose all I'm really suggesting is that Yahoo is being more aggressive with penalties lately, and, in some cases, using penalties to defend their own turf. Whether it's to boost their own revenue generating offerings or to drive more money to SiteMatch, I do not know.

cowboy




msg:847193
 7:06 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Guys,

I'm glad I found these posts. I didn't know what was going on with my site.

I had either a #1 or #2 ranking for my main keyword phrase for about 4 weeks. I was only getting 40-60 hits a day, but I was making about two sales consistently...then, I disappeared.

No hits, no sales, nothing. I sent a couple of emails to Yahoo, but received no reply. I can think of no reason why I'd be banned. I do not use SmartPages, or anything like that.

It sounds like you guys have lost a lot more than me and that everybody is pretty frustrated with this whole situation.

Did Yahoo change algorithms? They sure put a huge dent in my Clickbank checks.

All my best,
Cade

epicadventures




msg:847194
 3:40 am on Jun 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am now getting hits from MSN search engine. As of this weekend I have been out of Yahoo and MSN and had received zero hits from them. As of tonight, I am getting the hits from MSN. I thought that MSN was still using Yahoo's results and if you were out of Yahoo, you were out of MSN

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