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Latest news on Inktomi?
Still a separate database?
geoinct




msg:824980
 12:32 pm on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

What is the status of Inktomi? I see they still provide results to MSN, Hotbot, etc (Or at least these engines still mention Inktomi), but I havenít see any news about them in weeks (If I missed some posts, links to them would be much appreciated)

Does Inktomi now use the same database as Yahoo Search (as All-the-web and AltaVista do) or do they continue to have a separate database?

If they still have a separate database I assume they are still crawling the web separately? Does a submission to Site Match include a submission to both databases?

Any other news?

 

Yahoo_Mike




msg:824981
 4:58 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

The databases for Inktomi, ATW and AV are all now consolidated in the Yahoo Search Index. And a submission to Site Match covers the entire Yahoo index.

soapystar




msg:824982
 6:37 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

if its the same database but applied differently does this mean INK, ATW and ALTAVISTA also treat free and sitematch urls differently? i.e. sitematch is sprinkled on top of the free inclusion database. Do they also have the fresh boost the 48 hour crawl gives in the Yahoo index?

SEOMike




msg:824983
 6:46 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

A site:www.domain.com on Yahoo reveals different results than the same query does on ATW. Even if you do a filetype:html in yahoo, the results still aren't exactly the same. Possibly some artifact of the old Inktomi dbase?

mbennie




msg:824984
 6:51 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

So 'All The Web' is now 'Some Of The Web'?

Is 3 separate search engines with the exact same results considered duplicate content?

crobb305




msg:824985
 7:45 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo_Mike,

If all of these search engines use the same Yahoo index, then how can a site appear in the serps of some of these search engines and not others?

Yahoo_Mike




msg:824986
 9:24 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Several portals get Yahoo Search results, but they may do their own configurations and testing in respect to how and which results are shown. So while Yahoo may provide search results, it doesnít control how they are presented.

randle




msg:824987
 8:14 pm on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo_Mike,

Thank you for your input on this. I recently had several sites removed from the Yahoo index, but they still appear in other listings such as Inktomi, MSN, ect. I am trying to figure out if I have been hit with a penalty of some sort, and if so will it spread to the other directories in time.

Is there any way to confirm why my sites were removed? I can't think of a reason and whatever it is at this stage I just want to know so I can repair what has happened.

Thanks for any help.

Yahoo_Mike




msg:824988
 4:24 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Randle, have you tried emailing webmasterworldfeedback@yahoo.com?

Alternative Future




msg:824989
 4:32 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>have you tried emailing webmasterworldfeedback@yahoo.com?

Yahoo_Mike, I tried emailing that address some couple of months ago+ but still no reply or difference in my non-listings in Yahoo...
What is the average waiting time on a reply?

-George

randle




msg:824990
 4:50 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo_Mike,

Thank you for the follow up, it is appreciated. I did send a message there listing the sites on May 4th. No doubt there are quite a few of these messages coming in.

Happily 3 of the 6 sites have reappeared this morning. My main concern is some sort of penalty but perhaps things are just evolving.

I can re-send the message if that would be helpful.

Thank you.

randle




msg:824991
 7:40 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo_Mike,

I could really use some help from anyone at Yahoo regarding these sites that are missing. I have sent several messages. As I have maintained, I can't imagine why I would have a penalty on these sites, but if I do, I will take the news like a man without a big fuss and just move forward trying to repair the damage.

The sites that reappeared briefly are gone, and cannot be found in MSN now either.

This is what we do for a living; create consumer information web sites. We take pride in these sites and they support the people I employ. Since this whole thing began I have tried to see it all play out, and take into consideration the enormous changes and expansion Yahoo has been undergoing. I am realistic that there will be bugs, adjustments and new challenges for all. However, this is beginning to take quite a toll on us.

Any word, in any format, good or bad would be appreciated.

Thank you for you time.

Yahoo_Mike




msg:824992
 8:18 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Randle, while the webmasterworldfeedback@yahoo.com email remains the best way to determine if a penalty has been levied against your site, if you can sticky mail me more info, I'll try and see what I can do.

soapystar




msg:824993
 9:24 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

how comes theres no mention of reportsearchspam@yahoo-inc.com anymore?

[edited by: martinibuster at 8:12 am (utc) on Sep. 1, 2005]
[edit reason] fixed email address. [/edit]

randle




msg:824994
 10:26 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo_ Mike,

Thank you for the kind offer. It is all I can ask.

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