Msg#: 1403 posted 8:18 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)
I believe the "hotbot" link is Inktomi, just renamed.
Msg#: 1403 posted 8:38 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)
So the HotBot search is 'pure' Inktomi?
Msg#: 1403 posted 9:46 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)
They did change it! I used it a couple of days ago and it had, Inktomi, Google, Fast, Teoma. Now, it's Hotbot, Lycos, Google, Ask Jeeves.
It looks like they're adding other results up top. I searched and couldn't find notification of where the results were coming from.
Anybody have any ideas?
Msg#: 1403 posted 10:15 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)
I checked HotBot day before yesterday when I heard the rumor that Yahoo.ca was using Ink results, and I wanted to compare.
When I checked today the HotBot results were exactly the same as the Ink results.
My thought, Ink is HotBot.
Msg#: 1403 posted 12:02 am on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)
Choosing HotBot IS choosing Inktomi. I confirmed this with some pages I have ONLY in Inktomi. And to Jon_King, yes...choosing HotBot is PURE Inktomi.
Msg#: 1403 posted 12:14 am on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)
Definitely Inktomi. So what it looks like is being done there with the change to calling it HotBot is eliminating the Inktomi branding from that search. I suppose that'll ease it over if it starts to be called Yahoo search - or if Ink is pulled from there altogether.
Msg#: 1403 posted 1:57 am on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)
Submission at hotbot UK used to say Inktomi, it doesn't any more
Msg#: 1403 posted 6:09 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)
hotbot.com still says "powered by inktomi".
Funny - since Inktomi started spidering like a madman, results in Inktomi and Google are quite similar so hopefully there won't be a big drop in traffic due to yahoo's switching of the search engine. And being listed in Yahoo (got listed within 5 hours 2 months ago) won't hurt, I guess.
Something else I noted:
entering in "word1 word2"
brings around 4 million hits. But Inktomi suggests >did you mean "word1word2"< which only has 30.000 hits. hmmm.
Msg#: 1403 posted 3:31 pm on Aug 7, 2003 (gmt 0)
HotBot only rename the 24 of july all the SE on is search engine home page but still use the same engines.
- Inktomi was replace by HotBot
- AllTheWeb was replace by Lycos
- Teoma was replace by AskJeeves
- Google is still Google
Msg#: 1403 posted 2:39 am on Aug 11, 2003 (gmt 0)
Greetings and Gidday from downunder folks,
>results in Inktomi and Google are quite similar<
on yahoo.com.au (au.yahoo.com) standard 3keyword search *very* similar to G on top 10, but love the default 20 results, gets one of my pages in the scroll without having to rely on "next 10 results" to get some eyeballs. YeeHar!
Nice work Yahoo, recognising 10 results is hopeless. One of the things I loved about searching on the "old" hotbot was being able to choose the number of returned results. Ok, so this isn't quite the same thing, but lot's more useful.
G v Yahoo/Ink ... this might get interesting!
Postscript: seen on Yahoo oz SERP footer "Search Technology provided by Google" - DOUW!
Msg#: 1403 posted 6:59 am on Aug 11, 2003 (gmt 0)
basically the folks at Hotbot discovered that few people knew what Teoma, Inktomi, and Alltheweb were. Most of the same people knew what Hotbot, Ask, and Lycos are and thus they found the psychological impact of changing would be a great idea.
Of course any change generates media, which is a good thing!
Msg#: 1403 posted 6:56 am on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)
""We have continued to do usability testing to refine the product and one of the things that keeps coming back is that users don't know Inktomi, FAST, and Teoma," said Tom Wilde, general manager of search services for Lycos and HotBot. "But when tested against the brands HotBot, Lycos, and Ask Jeeves, almost all users recognize the names."
The new HotBot interface uses the more recognizable names. "HotBot" results are powered by Inktomi. "Lycos" results are powered by Overture's AlltheWeb search engine (formerly owned by FAST), and "Ask Jeeves" results come from the Teoma database."
From article by Chris Sherman, July 29th Ezine of Search Engine Watch.
Msg#: 1403 posted 2:26 pm on Aug 28, 2003 (gmt 0)
great! thanks for that info!
Does anyone know if there is a thread which gives tips on optimizing for inktomi (even if it is in the supporters forum) I searched but couldnt find anything...