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study




msg:816103
 11:49 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

I am not sure whether this is the right place to post this question but I think what I am going to ask is an interesting topic to discuss about which can help people to directing traffics to their website(s) in a short period of time(within 8 weeks).

I wonder how is it possible for a totally new website (about 3 months old) can be ranked as high as around 15,000 on Alexa and has a reach of 46% on average within that 3 months? Furthermore, the website doesn't have any keywords for the meta tags, doesn't have any related links directed to the website and doesn't even turned out to be within the first 10 pages of Google and the major S.E.(including the sponsor links section) for that particular market.

I think there must be a logical explanation to explain this feat which appears to be i-m-possible to most people as we were told or taught by most of not all marketing experts that usually you have to have meta tags(with highly relevant keywords), submit a website and wait for 6 months or so to get some traffics, and build your database by your own newsletter etc. if you want your website to be successful as that website. Is it possible to do this seemingly i-m-possible feat without actually breaking the bank?

 

nonni




msg:816104
 10:59 pm on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

My Alexa ranking went way down when I switched to a browser that didn't have the Alexa Toolbar installed. I use a web-based interface for editing my site, and they apparently counted all my edits as page views. (!) My real traffic has gone up significantly, my Alexa ranking has gone down... I don't care.

Dave_A




msg:816105
 2:05 am on Apr 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

From what I understand of it, Alexa seems to estimate a new sites hit rate.
My search engine is reported by Alexa to be getting around 620,000 visitors, down about twenty percent.
When in reality the visitor levels are much higher than that and we run four different types of stats to check it and to keep accurate results.
It does appear that if you have heaps of sites showing as linked or related to yours it scores higher, we can see around two hundred sites linked to us but alexa don't show any links to us just related sites.
It measures visitors who have the Alexa toolbar fitted but thousands don't have it so the results must be a little vauge to say the least.
We did start to index a heap of sites that were Alexa related and the scores of our visitor levels went up just after this, so it may be possible that they score sites higher if linked to something "Alexa" related.

Csandb




msg:816106
 11:08 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Search engines aren't the only source of traffic. I don't know about the site so I'm not sure but it could just be that the site is interesting enought that people are talking about it and therefore a lot of people just make a direct request by just typing in the URL in thier browsers.

study




msg:816107
 10:58 am on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

First of all, thank you all so much for the reply. Csandb, the URL itself is weird in a sense that it has numbers in it for example a URL which look like this www10.18#*&.com (let the #*& be some letters and it is not a keyword). Also, I want to point out that the website doesn't have any backlinks at all and I am still puzzled by its enormous amount of traffic that it generates over that short period without putting keywords, metatags and so on that the SEs love.

activeco




msg:816108
 11:19 am on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

the URL itself is weird in a sense that it has numbers in it for example a URL which look like this www10.18#*&.com (let the #*& be some letters and it is not a keyword)

What you are refering to is probably an international domain name with coded characters.
I don't think you could query search engines about the domain in a standard way.
You probably need more language/character supports to do that.

[en.wikipedia.org...]

study




msg:816109
 1:52 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thank you very much activeco for your reply. You are probably right because when I first tried to search for the URL, nothing came up on the SERPs eventhough I typed the exact URL (let say that the #*& are the letters xyz in the URL such as www10DOT18xyzDOTcom). Can you posibbly explain how can a website which doesn't have any backlinks, metatags and doesn't show on SERPs when you search for it generates a large amount of traffic and achieve high ranking in relative short period of time (about 3 weeks)? Thank you all so much for the valuable contribution to this post.

activeco




msg:816110
 2:10 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Can you posibbly explain how can a website which doesn't have any backlinks, metatags and doesn't show on SERPs when you search for it generates a large amount of traffic and achieve high ranking in relative short period of time (about 3 weeks)?

I already tried to.
Try this: [google.com...]

If you see a bunch of "?"'s you don't have a particular character support.
In order to query major search engines for such domains, including backlinks, etc., you have to use native characters, AFAIK.

Besides, many, if not most sites do not depend on search engine traffic. They are being picked by the mainstream in various ways (social networks, major news, good links, etc.).

activeco




msg:816111
 2:33 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Actually I have no experience with this, however if you use UTF-8 encoded (or other required encoding technique) queries, this could be very tricky work, IMO.

More info from people using non-standard character queries would be welcome here.

hobbnet




msg:816112
 12:36 am on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well, I'm not sure what site you are looking at but it can be done. One site in particular is doing it through click arbitrage on google adwords, overture, etc.

A great article regarding the site I am referring to can be found on jay weintraub's blog. It is titled "{SITE NAME} - Robbing Peter to Pay Paul"

study




msg:816113
 3:32 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

Sorry for the late repsonse. What a great article that you mentioned of. One thing worth mention though is that the website that I spoke about does not use any PPC campaign such as Adwords and so on and there also wasn't any link back to the website itself. I think it is just another unsolved mystery of the X-Files and only time will tell when this question will be solved by someone out there.

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