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Who are these random sites feeding yahoo?
With content match turned off
eljefe3




msg:812797
 4:51 am on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just checking my latest visitors to a site that only gets traffic from overture and I see a bunch of random domains sending me traffic with my overture keywords.

I've got content match, advanced match type turned off and I've got a bunch of traffic that I don't want, yet I'm paying for. Will a not to customer service result in any changes, or am I spinning my wheels here?

 

sem4u




msg:812798
 8:48 am on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I doubt it will have any impact. In fact the situation will probably get worse once then lose MSN.

Voxman




msg:812799
 9:05 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

It will get worse for Yahoo. Once MSN kicks in we are going to downsize our Overture account by half to start and hopefully be able to leave them entirely. I hate the fact we can't opt out of their so called partnersites which I have reason not to trust.

Partnersites indeed. Spam sites is more like it

StupidScript




msg:812800
 11:07 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

We've been seeing nearly exponential growth of these types of Y 'partner' sites, lately. Most of them seem to be 'for sale' or 'parked'.

I wonder about Y's rationale for subjecting its advertisers to intense, confusing and haphazard 'editorial' scrutiny even as its 'partners' are exemplifying the very worst the 'net has to offer.

JohnCanyon




msg:812801
 1:39 am on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

80% the traffic we have been receiving from Yahoo / Overture over the past 8 months has been total junk.

I have also noticed that a majority of these hits are from foreign countries and from parked domains, who serve "pre-filled" search queries.

I am still scratching my head as to what they are doing over there.

My recommendation would be to call them and email them to let them know you are extremely unsatisfied. Hopefully if they receive enough calls and complaints they will adjust their strategy accordingly.

The sad fact is a majority of people advertising with them are not tracking their traffic, thus have no idea what is happening.

J

eljefe3




msg:812802
 2:52 am on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have received a couple of replys and sent them my logs explaining how I wonder why a website about "knitting for retired people" sends clicks to my "muscle car site". Of course the terms in " are just an example, but the real world sites and search terms are way off. Still no $$ love back from them though.

bostonseo




msg:812803
 1:57 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

As their revenue continues to rapidly decline, credits are going to be fewer and fewer. At this point, Yahoo is concerned with only one thing - making money.

Actually the credits are pretty much useless anyway - it just results in say $75 more suspicious (aka fraudulent) clicks.

The ONLY way to get Yahoo to improve their search partner quality is for advertisers' to say enough is enough. Translation: stop spending money with them until they clean up their program.

digicam




msg:812804
 2:04 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Can someone explain how you get Overture clicks from 'partner sites' when all the matching is turned off - I assumed the only places the adverts would be shown would be on yahoos serps if matching is off.

Is this no the case?

bostonseo




msg:812805
 2:50 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

"I assumed the only places the adverts would be shown would be on yahoos serps if matching is off."

You are misinformed. Google allows you to select only
results from searches on www.google.com. Yahoo DOES NOT allow you to just have your ad served only from searches done on www.yahoo.com - they FORCE you to take clicks from every one of their search partners.

Now who are their search partners? I love how they will not tell you. Gee I wonder why? If they were these great websites, I'm sure they would be happy to provide their names :)

briggidere




msg:812806
 3:03 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

yep, boston, your dead right there.

we have spoken to our rep in the past few days complaining about the quality of their traffic. He has asked us to compile a list of the sites we are getting the rubbish traffic from, to see if he can do anything about it. I am not sure if he is just asking to make us think that he is going to do something or if he actually can do something.
We have closed more than 7 of our accounts with them in the past 6 weeks.

We also asked for a list of partner sites, and guess what, "it continues to grow so we do not have an updated list". Thats ok, last months list will do us. "No sorry we don't have one...."

I'll keep you updated on what happens after we send him the list of unacceptable sites.
We would be willing to re-activate the accounts if they do something, otherwise Google's gonna be getting richer quicker!

briggidere

bostonseo




msg:812807
 3:23 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Glad to hear other experienced advertisers' are significantly reducing or cutting off all ties with Yahoo!

I can feel them starting to shake. If you own that stock dump it now - next quarter's earning report will be BAD.

alpine




msg:812808
 10:42 am on Mar 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, Yahoo traffic is now significantly garbage, with all of the junk partners they have added and not segregated as content.

They're going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and nothing will be left.

shorebreak




msg:812809
 7:28 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Bostonseo,

If everyone on this thread is saying that it's the quality of Y!Search traffic that's horrible lately but not the quantity, then wouldn't that mean Yahoo's going to have a good quarter rather than a bad one? Advertisers being pissed about quality would be more likely to have a revenue impact for Yahoo in future quarters, one would think.

-Shorebreak

bostonseo




msg:812810
 1:17 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Shorebreak,

I'm not sure we understand each other. I'm saying that in the last 2 months many longtime Yahoo-Overture advertisers are spending less and less. I know I am spending about 25% what we spent just last November. And
on most of the competitive keywords, the CPC prices have fallen. What causes prices to drop? It's suppply and demand - less advertisers mean lower prices.

Perhaps this quarters revenue decline may not be as dramatic as I might think, but going forward this company
(and its stock price) are screwed. In the last 3 months, Yahoo's stock is down 30% - get out now I'd recommend.

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