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Chinese websites form anti-Google alliance
... and that Hu Jintao, what a swell guy he is ...
scareduck




msg:799430
 11:31 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Via /. --

[interfax.com...]

[edited by: Woz at 11:39 pm (utc) on Aug. 22, 2003]
[edit reason] updated link [/edit]

 

vincevincevince




msg:799431
 11:42 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

bit of competition? healthy

bcolflesh




msg:799432
 11:46 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Choogle?

As long as it can help me locate region-free bootleg DVD-9s, I'm in...

Regards,
Brent

chiyo




msg:799433
 11:51 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wonder why they are focused on Google? I thought in the foreign SE game, Y! was already there in a big way and AV, tho the latter has got banned yes?

>>The search service, for instance, will put names of customers that have bought a keyword or search catalog, among "Highly Recommended Sites" along with the search results, said Zheng.<<

So buying a keyword means you are highly recommended - not sponsored, or a premium ad, or paid listing, or whatever. Sounds like search engines in the US a while back.

So you can still BUY your Recommendation gongs down China way? I have a feeling the Chinese are very smart guys and Google's competitition will have to do much better than that to compete seriously.

bill




msg:799434
 12:18 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think the competition would have to come up with some truly relevant SERPs compared to Google's in order to sway the searching public in China. From the contributions of China-based WebmasterWorld members it seems that there are a lot of Internet search savvy people in that market.

Also, I get the impression that a lot of the services offered in China are directory listings rather than search engines. Are there any spidering engines in China that could give Google a run for their money?

hotice_2002




msg:799435
 1:40 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

In China almost 80% people using Goolge(G) & Baidu(B) to search what they want. Baidu did not join the alliance, the alliance want to beat Baidu & Google in Chinese Search, but their search results are worse than G & B. One compnay named "HuiCong" in China is the central of the alliance, just building another Chinses search engine since about 2000, but the process is slow, they launched "chinese news search" last year, and did not get the result they expected.
To search engines the most important thing is the accurate serch result, but "HuiCong" can not do better than G & B, so they build the alliance want to beat them by this way, but I think it is vain.

scareduck




msg:799436
 2:01 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

What I think most posters have thus far missed is that this is a government-led initiative whose object (IMHO) is certainly control over those things a foreign website might point to. This is almost certainly a political move.

martinibuster




msg:799437
 2:03 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks hotice_2002 for your illuminating comments. Sheds some light on a part of the world I don't usually look at.

:) Y

GoogleGuy




msg:799438
 4:04 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I appreciate hearing more about it from your perspective, hotice_2002.

hotice_2002




msg:799439
 7:48 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Sorry, I am not very well on English and have no much time to write more and actually I have written too much on "search engine forum of Baidu.com" in Chinese on this thing.

Another thing, on Google's latest update, the chinese search result is not very accurate.
Some people complained that while searching long chinese phrase on google,
they must use quotation marks to quote it, otherwise the phrase will be separated into several short chinese phrases, and the retured results is not what they really want.
I don't think it is well to separate one long phrase into severl short phrases while Google has the accurate search reulst.

IMHO
The Intelligent Chinses Words Divided Syncopation Technology is the soul factor to influence chinese search result of Google & Baidu.
The both search engine are racing on it.

bill




msg:799440
 8:28 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

We had an interesting thread about searching in Asian languages [webmasterworld.com] last year that brought up some of the difficulties in parsing CJK & Thai languages. I was under the impression that it was somewhat easier to parse out Chinese as opposed to other Asian languages. However hotice_2002 says that Google's tokenization of Chinese still needs a bit of work. Is it just the latest Google update that has shown bad results, or has this been ongoing?

hotice_2002




msg:799441
 9:37 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

This happened about two weeks ago, until now.

Some internet surfers said:" Now the accuracy of Google Chinese search results are worse than before".

I also think so.

chinadu




msg:799442
 10:40 am on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just did a search on "jobs" and "human resource" (in chinese) on the alliance search portal, several of the largest online job portals in China are not there, instead, it showed a bunch of craps. I'd expect it to die soon.

mikl40




msg:799443
 8:42 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

It will be interesing to see how a communistic government owned Google will be run, especially the news section.

bcolflesh




msg:799444
 8:51 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

They will probably rely on human editing to display the News results - but you will find the content matches the lies printed in any type of culture - just different characters & locations...

;)

Regards,
Brent

SlyOldDog




msg:799445
 8:30 pm on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wow. Freaky.

I went to exactly that page for a different article this morning. What are the chances of that? I guess according to Google about 3 billion to 1.

mfagan




msg:799446
 6:02 pm on Apr 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

New Rule Regulates Internet Search Engines [english.peopledaily.com.cn] (China's People's Daily)

As I read it, "The regulation aims to ensure all Internet service providers in China meet certain technical requirements" means censorship.

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