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What do you call yourself...?
Web Designer/Developer/programmer...? Guru?
Harley_m




msg:781625
 9:06 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I simply refuse to be called a web designer any more - there are just so many millions of people with frontpage who call themselves WD's that its driving me nuts - i spoke to one guy the other day who claimed to be - upon question of his skills - he didnt even know frontpage - and was building websites in Word...

What is your job title...?

 

Gibble




msg:781626
 9:20 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I prefer internet programmer since I do programming with PHP, Perl, ASP, etc

mivox




msg:781627
 9:25 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I try not to call myself anything... hehehe. Simply a "designer" oft times, since I also do print design. However, for the internet side of things, I think "Web Architect" is a nice one, especially for folks like me, who handle graphic design, html/xhtml coding, cgi installation and customization, and everything else ourselves.

Architect suggests a more all-encompassing approach to the work than "programmer" or "designer" by themselves. While I'm not qualified to call myself a programmer, I do a lot more than just design.

Shakil




msg:781628
 9:27 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

"e-commerce architect" or "traffic driver"

although a most people probably call me something which would result in this post being removed.

Shak

[edited by: Shakil at 9:32 pm (utc) on Jan. 2, 2003]

chameleon




msg:781629
 9:28 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, I own the company, so I guess my title is "President", but I see your point.

Personally, I've always broken things down this way:

Web Designer - Someone who handles the graphical end of the site's "look and feel". This may include some basic HTML work, but generally it's more Photoshop and Flash.

Web Developer - Someone who handles the broader coding of a web site - ASP, PHP, ColdFusion, database integration, e-commerce, etc.

I agree with your assessment of the marketplace as well. There are far too many people with a copy of FrontPage who call themselves "Web Designers" or "Web Developers". They (generally) produce horrible work, charge ridiculously low rates, and go out of business in less than six months.

SlyGuy




msg:781630
 9:28 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I hate the term "web designer"

blah!

My business cards say "Creative Director" and I'm comfortable with that.

- Chad

mivox




msg:781631
 9:31 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

My business cards say "Creative Director"

;) My business cards say my name. hehe

jimbeetle




msg:781632
 9:35 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm an editor. Always have and always will be. And I think editor flows nicely from marking up a manuscript to the 'markup' in HTML, which in it's early days was simply electronic copyediting.

fathom




msg:781633
 9:36 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

fathom

crosenblum




msg:781634
 9:42 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I agree with you a 1000% chameleon.

I am a Web Developer, I am an application creater/maker.

A Web Designer handles graphics/layout.

A Web Developer takes those designs and creates code/applications around them.

I am also getting to feel comfortable with what I hope to be my next title. Ecommerce Developer, specifically creating applications with ecommerce in mind.

SlyGuy




msg:781635
 9:55 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

My business cards say my name.

Perhaps that is why I keep getting those strange phone calls asking for Mr. Director.

;)

lorax




msg:781636
 1:32 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Me. A name I call myself. Fa. A long long way..."

Developer. I include the design of the page layout but draw the line at artwork.

dingman




msg:781637
 5:00 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I go for "web developer" right now. I'd happily work with a good designer, but that's not where my strength lies and I know it. I have been toying with the idea of switching to "web programmer" on the theory that the unwashed masses might have a little better idea what it means, but haven't done it yet.

AmericanBulldog




msg:781638
 5:24 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Sorry, can't resist...

Grand Poobah
Supreme Leader
Master of my domain
.
.
.
Mostly, I call myself Dad, comes with the territory

crosenblum




msg:781639
 2:01 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

That's too funny, American Bulldog.

The real key behind all this, is the ignorant masses, who refuse to use their brain cells. I have no problem explaining myself.

But it's gets frustrating when they don't try to figure it out themselves.

ritualcoffee




msg:781640
 2:45 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

oh - I got a fun one...

Search engine and web metrics specialist

aka web developer

web_india




msg:781641
 2:57 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't call myself anything, only others do :)

jackofalltrades




msg:781642
 3:46 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

"my pc has this problem...." is my name.

Or at least thats what people say to me most often...

web_india




msg:781643
 4:09 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

>"my pc has this problem...."

I hope you don't want to say that you are the problem ;)

jackofalltrades




msg:781644
 4:17 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I usually respond:

"I studied marketing - i dont have a clue how to fix your computer - just because i run the website doesnt mean i can fix computers - go away and leave me alone!"

or

"Plug it in"

;)

crosenblum




msg:781645
 4:38 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ha ha, this thread is so freakin funny.

Hey is anyone a fan of BOFH?

Anyways, there are so many freakin titles, does it really matter?

I have to generally tell my employer's what to call me, and that is usually to not call me 24 hours a day.

Is there any humor/stress relief websites for us web developers?

excell




msg:781646
 4:47 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I generally shriek at client.. I am not a web designer, in the same manner one would say "I am not an elephant".. they say then what are you doing? I say I market businesses on the Internet, I am an Internet Business Consultant, but I can also design web sites.. LOL

jimbeetle




msg:781647
 6:36 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>just because i run the website doesnt mean i can fix computers - go away and leave me alone!"

And you're danged if you do and danged if you don't. So you help them out because they happen to be a client. Spend a few hours tracking down the problem. Get a call two days later "Why aren't our pages updated yet?" The same pages you were working on when...

bcc1234




msg:781648
 6:43 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hmm, in the early boom days my business card said "e-Business Solution Developer", a bit later in another company - "Chief Technology Officer".
And now, I'm self-employed and call myself consultant - plain and simple :)
Consultant, pretty much = a whore :)
Hmm, I pick my clients, I set my rates, and I work at night.
Damn, I am a whore :(

chameleon




msg:781649
 7:07 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

God Bless ****es :)

I used to tell my employees that we were ****es. When a client calls and says "Can you do <blah blah bla>", our answer is always "Yes!". If we don't know it, we'll figure it out, or subcontract someone who does.

After a while, I realized that I really wanted to be in the check cashing business. Just give me the checks, and I'll cash them. My bank is very relaxed -- they'll take as big of a check as you can write!

Doing the work is really secondary :)

Disclaimer: Yes, of course I'm kidding. All characters presented are fictional. Any resemblence to actual people, places or logic is completely coincidental. No llamas were injured in the posting of this rant.

crosenblum




msg:781650
 7:51 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Too funny.

I really don't care, all i care about is if i get paid, and how frequentally.

What get's really hard is not caring, if they make stupid decisions and then don't like facing the consequences of them. Then when I try to warn them, they tell me to mind my own business. They'd rather blindly go into the fires, and just hope things work out.

Arggggggggggggh!

mat_bastian




msg:781651
 8:00 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi my name is mat bastian. I run a web presence and promotion business.

Gibble




msg:781652
 8:03 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Not Free"

bcc1234




msg:781653
 12:56 pm on Jan 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Not Free"

LOL, that's a good one.

fathom




msg:781654
 2:04 pm on Jan 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

By the wit of these posts I can see 2003 is going to be a good year.

As far a title:

In submarines: Chief of Operations (CHOPS)

On Warships: Anti Submarine Warfare Director (ASWD) which changed to Anti Surface Warfare Controller (ASWC)

On leaving the military for private practice: Any Director title would do.

I sub-contract my services so clients can benefit thus a few title have come about depending on which company it is:

Director of E-marketing
Director of Internet Services
E-marketing Consultant, and
Consultant

but again I prefer - fathom (It can easily be used as a noun, verb, adverb, and adjective)

Not hard to fathom!

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