| 9:20 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I prefer internet programmer since I do programming with PHP, Perl, ASP, etc
| 9:25 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I try not to call myself anything... hehehe. Simply a "designer" oft times, since I also do print design. However, for the internet side of things, I think "Web Architect" is a nice one, especially for folks like me, who handle graphic design, html/xhtml coding, cgi installation and customization, and everything else ourselves.
Architect suggests a more all-encompassing approach to the work than "programmer" or "designer" by themselves. While I'm not qualified to call myself a programmer, I do a lot more than just design.
| 9:27 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
"e-commerce architect" or "traffic driver"
although a most people probably call me something which would result in this post being removed.
[edited by: Shakil at 9:32 pm (utc) on Jan. 2, 2003]
| 9:28 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Well, I own the company, so I guess my title is "President", but I see your point.
Personally, I've always broken things down this way:
Web Designer - Someone who handles the graphical end of the site's "look and feel". This may include some basic HTML work, but generally it's more Photoshop and Flash.
Web Developer - Someone who handles the broader coding of a web site - ASP, PHP, ColdFusion, database integration, e-commerce, etc.
I agree with your assessment of the marketplace as well. There are far too many people with a copy of FrontPage who call themselves "Web Designers" or "Web Developers". They (generally) produce horrible work, charge ridiculously low rates, and go out of business in less than six months.
| 9:28 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I hate the term "web designer"
My business cards say "Creative Director" and I'm comfortable with that.
| 9:31 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|My business cards say "Creative Director" |
;) My business cards say my name. hehe
| 9:35 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I'm an editor. Always have and always will be. And I think editor flows nicely from marking up a manuscript to the 'markup' in HTML, which in it's early days was simply electronic copyediting.
| 9:36 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
| 9:42 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I agree with you a 1000% chameleon.
I am a Web Developer, I am an application creater/maker.
A Web Designer handles graphics/layout.
A Web Developer takes those designs and creates code/applications around them.
I am also getting to feel comfortable with what I hope to be my next title. Ecommerce Developer, specifically creating applications with ecommerce in mind.
| 9:55 pm on Jan 2, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|My business cards say my name. |
Perhaps that is why I keep getting those strange phone calls asking for Mr. Director.
| 1:32 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
"Me. A name I call myself. Fa. A long long way..."
Developer. I include the design of the page layout but draw the line at artwork.
| 5:00 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I go for "web developer" right now. I'd happily work with a good designer, but that's not where my strength lies and I know it. I have been toying with the idea of switching to "web programmer" on the theory that the unwashed masses might have a little better idea what it means, but haven't done it yet.
| 5:24 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Sorry, can't resist...
Master of my domain
Mostly, I call myself Dad, comes with the territory
| 2:01 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
That's too funny, American Bulldog.
The real key behind all this, is the ignorant masses, who refuse to use their brain cells. I have no problem explaining myself.
But it's gets frustrating when they don't try to figure it out themselves.
| 2:45 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
oh - I got a fun one...
Search engine and web metrics specialist
aka web developer
| 2:57 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I don't call myself anything, only others do :)
| 3:46 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
"my pc has this problem...." is my name.
Or at least thats what people say to me most often...
| 4:09 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>"my pc has this problem...."
I hope you don't want to say that you are the problem ;)
| 4:17 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I usually respond:
"I studied marketing - i dont have a clue how to fix your computer - just because i run the website doesnt mean i can fix computers - go away and leave me alone!"
"Plug it in"
| 4:38 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Ha ha, this thread is so freakin funny.
Hey is anyone a fan of BOFH?
Anyways, there are so many freakin titles, does it really matter?
I have to generally tell my employer's what to call me, and that is usually to not call me 24 hours a day.
Is there any humor/stress relief websites for us web developers?
| 4:47 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I generally shriek at client.. I am not a web designer, in the same manner one would say "I am not an elephant".. they say then what are you doing? I say I market businesses on the Internet, I am an Internet Business Consultant, but I can also design web sites.. LOL
| 6:36 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>>just because i run the website doesnt mean i can fix computers - go away and leave me alone!"
And you're danged if you do and danged if you don't. So you help them out because they happen to be a client. Spend a few hours tracking down the problem. Get a call two days later "Why aren't our pages updated yet?" The same pages you were working on when...
| 6:43 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Hmm, in the early boom days my business card said "e-Business Solution Developer", a bit later in another company - "Chief Technology Officer".
And now, I'm self-employed and call myself consultant - plain and simple :)
Consultant, pretty much = a whore :)
Hmm, I pick my clients, I set my rates, and I work at night.
Damn, I am a whore :(
| 7:07 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
God Bless ****es :)
I used to tell my employees that we were ****es. When a client calls and says "Can you do <blah blah bla>", our answer is always "Yes!". If we don't know it, we'll figure it out, or subcontract someone who does.
After a while, I realized that I really wanted to be in the check cashing business. Just give me the checks, and I'll cash them. My bank is very relaxed -- they'll take as big of a check as you can write!
Doing the work is really secondary :)
Disclaimer: Yes, of course I'm kidding. All characters presented are fictional. Any resemblence to actual people, places or logic is completely coincidental. No llamas were injured in the posting of this rant.
| 7:51 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I really don't care, all i care about is if i get paid, and how frequentally.
What get's really hard is not caring, if they make stupid decisions and then don't like facing the consequences of them. Then when I try to warn them, they tell me to mind my own business. They'd rather blindly go into the fires, and just hope things work out.
| 8:00 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Hi my name is mat bastian. I run a web presence and promotion business.
| 8:03 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
| 12:56 pm on Jan 4, 2003 (gmt 0)|
LOL, that's a good one.
| 2:04 pm on Jan 4, 2003 (gmt 0)|
By the wit of these posts I can see 2003 is going to be a good year.
As far a title:
In submarines: Chief of Operations (CHOPS)
On Warships: Anti Submarine Warfare Director (ASWD) which changed to Anti Surface Warfare Controller (ASWC)
On leaving the military for private practice: Any Director title would do.
I sub-contract my services so clients can benefit thus a few title have come about depending on which company it is:
Director of E-marketing
Director of Internet Services
E-marketing Consultant, and
but again I prefer - fathom (It can easily be used as a noun, verb, adverb, and adjective)
Not hard to fathom!
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