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How to get rid of email spam
Why are they spamming so intensively?
angiolo




msg:793280
 7:02 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have several emails addresses.

Some of them are only "private": I didn't use them in a web site. I only used them in some forums or used to answer privately.

I do not know why, but I am receiving a lot of spam concerning these matters:

mortgage
Sculpt & Tone Your Muscles
viagra
Printer Ink
free dream vacation
Meet other single
Diet
etc.

I tried to use the "unscribe" procedure but I got the impression that using that procedure guarantee you only more spam: your email works!!!

How can I get rid of them?
Do you know an authorities where I can complain or just forward the emails so that they can investigate?

I am curious about this spamming; why do they continue to spam if you declared you are not interested in their services?

 

rcjordan




msg:793281
 7:20 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

a good overview of the reasons to spam:
[siliconvalley.com...]

IMO, about the only thing you can do about it is to aggressively filter
[webmasterworld.com...]

angiolo




msg:793282
 7:25 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thank you rcjordan!

Good information.
I tried aggressively filter, but I used only the email address ( that changes evry time..).

The suggested tips are great!

Travoli




msg:793283
 7:34 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

>I only used them in some forums

bingo. that is my guess as to where they were found by the spammers.

Mike_Mackin




msg:793284
 7:38 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

mortgage
Sculpt & Tone Your Muscles
viagra
Printer Ink
free dream vacation
Meet other single
Diet

THESE ARE ALL HEAVY INTO AFFILIATE

You can cut their legs off by reporting them to the master affiliate site.

kneelsit




msg:793285
 11:17 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I was having the same problem until I came across a great piece of software from a N.Z. developer which he called "mailwasher" add <net> at the end and you can find it. I am NOT an affiliate in fact he is quite low key about asking for donations to cover his cost.

It pre-filters your mail and bounces back those of which you are suspicious (WHICH YOU TICK) then it puts them on a blacklist so they keep getting back their own email.

Really neat.

JamesR




msg:793286
 11:19 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

you're OK with mail washer kneelsit, it already has the stamp of approval

[webmasterworld.com...]

(just got it up and running today myself)

seofan




msg:793287
 11:36 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

LOVE mailwasher. I've had it for 2 weeks and it has been a tremendous help.

To report affiliates driving traffic to their ordering page with ficticiously identified email headers, simply go to the affiliate site and look for the affiliate ID information. Then report it to the product promotions or affiliate promotions department.

There's plenty of falsly identified spam that doesn't have a website link and refers to a snail mail address for ordering. If you are like me and other folks, it is a waste of precious time to fool with these (and almost all spam). When you get rid of one affiliate spammer, there are 10 more to take their place in that "get-rich-quick" spam position.

angiolo




msg:793288
 8:48 am on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thank you so much to everybody!

chiyo




msg:793289
 9:30 am on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

Has anybody evaluated/used both Mailwasher and SpamWeasel. i am using the latter and it seems to work well and is free. Wondering whether Mailwasher was any better?

Today 300 spams, 20 legitimate emails after 6 hours.

Email spam is getting even sneakier day by day. It is harder to use headers, as one example, of one way to detect spam. So many emails headed, Invoice#222, Your invoice, emails sounding like real companies eg: some today from delphi-forum ect etc. These guys really should be shot, but we can never find them of course. Regulation of spam email with big penalties are required urgently. Too many spineless cowards using the internet.

rcjordan




msg:793290
 2:05 pm on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Mailwasher and SpamWeasel

I haven't used spamweasel, but I did move to MW after running spameater for several weeks. MW has two features that really make it potent:
#1 - Ability to do Regular Expressions
#2 - User can order the priority/sequence of the filters (better speed)

BTW, I noticed last night that MW says they're going to be able to filter your hotmail accounts.
Hotmail, AOL, other web mail
23 April 2002
Support for these is coming (approx 2 months), just making some major changes/adding features to current version.

smatsmax




msg:793291
 2:34 pm on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

nice find RC

Just what i needed to know
Are you psychic?

rcjordan




msg:793292
 3:14 pm on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Are you psychic?

No, just jacked straight into the best "online pro" board there is.

smatsmax




msg:793293
 5:34 pm on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

>just jacked straight in

Fortunately i'm already addicted.

Thanks for feeding my habit

bill




msg:793294
 2:39 am on Apr 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

Has anybody evaluated/used both Mailwasher and SpamWeasel.
I used SpamWeasel for several months and then decided to see what all the MailWasher hype was...

MailWasher wins on ease of filter setup and maintenance. I was constantly tweaking SpamWeasel's rules, patterns, and words collections and no matter what I did, a week later some spam scientist would send me something that would fly right thru the filters. Plus, SpamWeasel documentation is fairly lacking...and it's not clear as to how you can set up all the options. If you're real comfortable writing regular expressions and can figure out the syntax that SpamWeasel uses, then it can be a great tool. I found myself spending a great deal more time working on maintaining SpamWeasel than MailWasher.

Give MailWasher a try for a few days. It's saved me many hours every week I've used it.

seofan




msg:793295
 3:27 am on Apr 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

Dang Chiyo.....only 300 spams....? You're getting off light
Truly - these tools are a major help to those of us who do business on the web. I get an average of 800-1000 spam messages a day. It took me about $100 to $150 dollars a day of billable time to get to the 20 emails that Chiyo also got to----that were "important". This is a real invasion on our business operations.

I know that attempts to bill email time have failed for the most part - however - new approaches have surfaced.

If you send a documented email and send a copy to a third party notifying the spammer that they accept your consulting terms of 50.00/per hour with a 1 hour minimum any time an email contact is received from them, and any further contact is acknowledgement of that agreement, then you have half a leg to stand on. A good friend of mine used that and got an apology letter plus some non-monetary considerations for the spam onslaught from that co. after that notification. It takes due diligence and perserverance.......but it is winning a small battle in the middle of a big war.

Small battles are well won though. Have to briefly mention a spam I got just this past Friday. Child intimate abuse (can't say the "p" word, it gets *** out). Me...the mother of twin 10 year old girls and a 12 year old boy.....well. I can't describe the outrage. To my business email at that!!!

Long story short...I researched their domains, owners, URLs, payment processors, etc. and got down to business of giving the guys at the FBI the info they needed to end this in short order. I checked their URL yesterday. The FBI homepage popped proudly up. So goes thorough research and perserverance <flag waving>.

eboda




msg:793296
 5:05 am on Apr 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Angiolo,

DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE!!! If there is one thing that you don't do.. click unsubscribe.

When you click unsubscribe or remove it just confirms your e-mail address is good and you are passed on to another list.

Why can't all states be like the State of Washington. Spam is against the law there!

Anyway - my 2 cents :)

mack




msg:793297
 5:07 am on Apr 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

When ever i get spamm i just set my email program to ban that specific address. Slowly i will get there :)

rogerd




msg:793298
 7:43 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>>...State of Washington. Spam is against the law there<<

That's great... Does that mean if I move to Seattle, my spam problems will be over. I know it rains a lot, but I do like the idea of a Starbucks on every corner.

chiyo




msg:793299
 5:06 am on Apr 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

The simple answer to "why are they spamming so intensively?"

1. It costs them hardly any money at all
2. They can promote illegal or not acceptable products or services while remaining 99.9% anonymous.

These two have always been the greatest advantage to the use of email and why people started using email replacing fax, letters and phone calls. Now the advantages have changed to disadvantages. Email is fast going the way of Archie and Veronica, and personally i am appreciated letters, and faxes much more, and take them far more seriously.

tedster




msg:793300
 5:43 am on Apr 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

> I checked their URL yesterday. The FBI homepage popped proudly up.

Warms my heart - well done! I only wish the tools were available to stop even LEGAL businesses from spamming. (Notice I did not say legitimate! There's nothing legitimate about USCE in my book.)

rcjordan




msg:793301
 1:58 pm on Apr 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

> Email is fast going the way of Archie and Veronica

Heh! Good one, chiyo.

seofan




msg:793302
 2:57 pm on Apr 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

1. It costs them hardly any money at all
2. They can promote illegal or not acceptable products or services while remaining 99.9% anonymous.

Right Chiyo....and since spammers play the "numbers" game, they hit a few each day that will write in and send checks. There are always the few that are new recipients that will take the bait.

rcjordan




msg:793303
 10:17 pm on Apr 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

The spammers have raised the level of bombardment high enough and offensive enough that perhaps they'll soon trigger some sort of intervention. Businesses and individuals I know are starting to grouse publicly, and I'm seeing a few mainstream stories like this lately... Innocent 'Hello' Sells Hot Sex on the Internet [story.news.yahoo.com]

chiyo




msg:793304
 4:24 am on Apr 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks RC.. great resource...

Latest update. Checked my email 11am sunday morning for the 8 hour period beforehand. 120 emails. 118 spam. I used to go through my Eudora listing and mark all the spam one by one. I now keep my pinkie on the Shift key, and delete almost all of it in blocks of 50 or so.

yeah sure i can use mailwasher, but that's another task i have to do that makes email more inefficient. I guess its the same as getting a new double locks and alarms at my house, but i damn the criminals all the while, becuase its money im spending on them.

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