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Reinclusion possible?
For a site I'm looking at purchasing
zCat




msg:731046
 8:35 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

A while back I decided to put up a subdomain site on a subject I can write about with great ease and which also should be monetizable given enough content and traffic. While researching material I came across a similar site which is up for sale, looks like it would be a great way of jumpstarting my site if I can get hold of it. The site has a PR6 homepage and has been around six or seven years with some decent backlinks and is generally quite solid and respectable, if a little dated.

Today I was planning to contact the owner, and did a few checks on the site to make sure I hadn't overlooked anything, and to my surprise discovered it had completely vanished from Google (neither site: command nor search on unique strings from text on the site produce any results).

Looking into it further, it seems the site's SEO was probably state-of-the-art around 2001; the major sin is a paragraph of hidden text (font color same as background color; both values defined directly in the relevant HTML tags) on the front page, which I presume is what triggered the removal from Google. Apart from that there's nothing really dodgy though.

If I were to get hold of this site (only at a hefty discount given it's lack of Google ranking though), and give it a major reworking for SEO, making it squeaky clean etc., what are the chances that a reinclusion request would have any chance of success?

 

Adam_Lasnik




msg:3004929
 1:16 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi zCat,

We don't want people to avoid doing good things with "used" domains.

So I'd grab the domain you have your eye on, clean up what needs to be cleaned up, and then -- given that you have reason to believe that the domain previously violated Google's Webmaster Guidelines -- go ahead and file a reinclusion request.

zCat




msg:3005292
 9:12 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Adam,

thanks for the reply. It's encouraging to get this kind of feedback. Apart from that one block of text [ * ], it's a perfectly fine site which, although a little dated, doesn't deserve a ban.

[ * ] No doubt I'll never get confirmation on this, but if I was writing a black hat SEO detection algorithm, that would be an easy target to detect.

sudden




msg:3005394
 11:14 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

One of our clients successfully did just the same - before he became our client, that is. :)

Same sin as the web site in question, and he got reincluded after a few weeks, now ranking #12 for his main keyword. And if things donīt work out, you could still use the content you paid for on your domain.

Quadrille




msg:3009910
 10:20 pm on Jul 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'd go for it - but do be extremely careful.

The remedy may be as simple as it looks - but it may be much more complicated.

Relistings are expensive for Google, and they will not be keen to re-look if you ask too soon, so be absolutely sure the site is squeeky clean before asking for resubmission.

Good Luck :)

ibpotter




msg:3019525
 10:17 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

How does one file a reinclusion request?

oaktown




msg:3019543
 10:35 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

ibpotter,

Without trying to be a wiseguy..."Google "reinclusion request". The #1 or #2 listing should take you to Matt Cutts' answer. Good luck! It sometimes works.

ibpotter




msg:3019834
 6:56 am on Jul 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for not being af wiseguy ;) Oaktown - but thanks...

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