| 8:49 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
So did MC's check your sites blog refer to 6/27? Maybe he was just irritated by some emails he got, and reacted to that.
| 8:52 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I've noticed a few other odd things happen today. My site is still suffering in the SERPs along with everyone else since 6/27. If I search "site:www.example.com" my homepage is still missing. Here is where things get weird.
If I search for "http://www.example.com/" my homepage shows as being cached. If I view the cache the AdSense ads are all completely unrelated to my site. However if I enter any other URI from my site and view the cache the AdSense ads shown are appropriate to the content of that page.
Something else odd... When I logged into my sitemaps account yesterday it said the last time Googlebot had accessed my homepage was on July 5. Yet today when I logged into my sitemaps account it says the last time Googlebot accessed my homepage was June 30. Maybe I've just never noticed before... but I've never seen the "last accessed" date in sitemaps go backwards.
| 9:00 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
"but I've never seen the "last accessed" date in sitemaps go backwards."
I have a few times but I thought I was just going insane.
| 10:55 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I am seeing something quite strange. From nowhere my site has entered the serps first page for "blue widgets" out of over a billion results - which is nice.
But on on my default UK dc.
One minute it's there - the next it's not. Then it's there...you get the idea.
I have done the search on Mcdar - and I'm nowhere on any dc.
| 11:00 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Google is probably just burping, coughing, sneezing, and farting at the same time again. Heck who knows what else is happening over there!
[edited by: arubicus at 11:07 pm (utc) on July 7, 2006]
| 11:06 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Now we know that it exists an algorithm that was refreshed with data. Or maybe it is that some data was refreshed by an algorithm that exists. Also, it could be that existing data refreshed an algorithm.
That's pretty clear that Matt doesn't know / is not allowed to / doesn't want to explain what really happened.
| 11:15 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Matt Cutts: "the change went through evaluation just like any other change and showed a positive improvement."
| 11:18 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Great, so what he's actually done is fed us more G BS
Oh please, he knows exactly whats going on, he just doesn't want to, or he's not allowed to, go in to detail coz he knows the results right now are *******.
And how can that be true, when there are least 4 or 5 different sets of data being found on different dc's and their all rubbish
It's about time he woke up, smelt the coffee and actually admited that they have f**ked up.
Here's a suggestion, turn the algo back to the 26th and not only make a lot of people very happy, but also provide a decent set of results.
That statement is absolute trash and if he's got any sense he'll come out and say so rather than hoping this issue will go away!
<language edited from actual thought process/>
| 11:26 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
"turn the algo back to the 26th"
Hope thats the 26th Feb!, All this lot started going pear shaped since the roll out of BD if you ask me!
| 12:05 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I changed my mind and got rid of this post.
| 12:33 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
|"turn the algo back to the 26th" |
They need to turn it back by a little over two years. Something like 26 Feb 2004. They have screwed with all of us for at least that long.
| 1:18 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Isnt that part of the fun? Unless of course your making MFA sites!
| 2:49 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
"Are you talking about the sector(s) you watch, or are you issuing here a general assessment for all sectors?"
I tend to talk about what I've seen rather than everything I've not seen...
The datacenters continue to show all manner of different weaknesses, while google.com continues only have the large problem of flaws resulting from google's screwups. (Google.de, google.fr and the others seem to have the same weak stuff rather than the stronger stuff first seen on comcast.)
Okay, the update of the past 36 hours or so weakened the results significantly in part because more pages have been lost, particularly (or maybe only) on hyphenated domains, but also due to an awful lot of new blog garbage appearing. If that sticks that won't be good, but its such junk it may not.
| 6:38 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
>Isnt that part of the fun? Unless of course your making MFA sites!
No this inst fun and some of us don't make MFA sites some of us produce good content sites that have been dumped along with our incomes
| 7:53 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Why would a data refresh cause sites to lose the homepage top on a site:domain.com check?
| 7:58 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Could the data have been bad or incomplete for some sites so that it does not display properly in the site command? That is...if what Matt said is the truth.
| 8:45 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
arubicus - I think your pretty close to the money with that comment. I also think they know very well a batch of "brown" data has escaped into the live index. We still see some Google IP's reporting correctly when the site command is used, I can find at least 5 that report correctly so if this was a type of update I think now almost 2 weeks after these ok data centers would have also turned "brown". It looks like it's going to take a whole lot of crawling & caching before this turns itself around, I don't expect to wake up one day and find my sites back on top. Sadly.
| 8:53 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
true, but I am starting to see a small recovery - just would be nice if the rollout moved a little faster
| 9:04 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
tigger - if this is the case maybe sites with a higher PR will recover faster? I am seeing one PR6 that seems to be ranking again for some search terms although it is still upside down when you run the site: command...
| 9:10 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
" true, but I am starting to see a small recovery - just would be nice if the rollout moved a little faster "
I just want to see our complete site in the index having no issues and ranked based on actual merit and not lost because of bad screwed up incomplete data, hiccups, farts, vomit, and diarrhea Google has been plagued with.
[edited by: arubicus at 9:14 am (utc) on July 8, 2006]
| 9:12 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
"if this is the case maybe sites with a higher PR will recover faster? I am seeing one PR6 that seems to be ranking again for some search terms although it is still upside down when you run the site: command... "
That is if PR is being calculated and distributed properly despite the hiccups.
| 9:14 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Not from what I'm seeing I'm fortunate that I have a friend in the same market and we were both hit - his site is much older and has a stronger PR with considerably more pages index than me but I'm seeing a recovery across both sites
Confused - YEP!
| 10:05 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Without doubt the data on 220.127.116.11 seems to be by far the best in returning quality, relevant results.
Fingers crossed that this is the sign of things to come.
| 10:11 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
you won't get any arguments from me on that
| 10:40 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Strange site:example.com listing at one of my influenced domains:
All this 4 entries produced "Error 404 - file not found"
I wonder how the strange pathes from place 1..4 had been created.
| 12:05 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
If it was a roll back to 2004 like Matt said why is my site that was only created in late 2005 doing very well in the top 5 for most major keyords. Some with 10 millinon pages
| 12:16 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I don't really remember with all these changes.
Did the result on this DC 18.104.22.168 recover back since 27th or was it always like this?
| 12:25 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I couldn't tell you if that DC has changed
| 1:45 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
My site is not really showing any signs of recovery as yet. However, I was <using an online tool> searching on one of my pre June 27th top keywords - and my pages appeared in the top ten again - on all the datacenters. Unfortunately, they disappeared again, just as quickly, going back down to position 300+.
I don't know what it is that Google are doing, but they are doing something, so don't give up hope ;-)
<See Forum Charter [webmasterworld.com]>
[edited by: tedster at 2:53 pm (utc) on July 8, 2006]
| 3:50 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Bang goes my hope that a fresh homepage cache would help the site:domain.com problem.
Just been updated to July 4th cache and still Google has the bug where it has internals first on a site:domain.com check.
| 3:52 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
show off I'm only 1st! Well it is the weekend Dayo ;0)
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