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Datacenter Watch: 2006-06-09
g1smd

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Msg#: 34753 posted 9:21 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now this is interesting.

A site with 40 000 "real" pages and some 80 000 duplicate content pages excluded using robots.txt (it's a forum - see my prior posts about vbulletin) and still some 80 000 duplicate pages that are not yet so excluded.

Additionally some 500 000 non-thread pages also excluded in robots.txt and most of those already delisted. The whole site is listed as www; nothing is listed as non-www at all.

Looking purely at indexed threads:

site:domain.com shows 90 000 www pages all as normal results; including some duplicate content that will eventually be excluded.

site:domain.com -inurl:www shows 24 000 www pages all of which are marked as Supplemental Results and all of which also have an old cache date. This search should show zero results. It certainly should not be showing www pages at all, the search was for "-inurl:www". What is going on?

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steveb

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:17 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

This is just too weird. Pages removed looking at McDar in ie? mode move up a half dozen spots to #2 viewing in search? mode. Using mcdar is deceptive now. The regular datacenter search page will usually display different results.

I don't know why you guys keep refering to two data sets. There are at least ten out there now.

toothake

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:31 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I just checked allinanchor in my default for a random authority site ,the 2# #3 and #4 results are other completely unrelated sites ,funny init?

jaffstar

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:42 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just found some sub-pages ranking down in the 300+ arena.

Homepage seems to be gone, which used to rank for main kw's.

Could the site be hijacked?

What are the other possibilites for no homepage rankings?

tebrino

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:47 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Comcast search now shows completely different set of results. Absoulutely no similarities with any data centers. Anyone else?

toothake

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:50 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Homepage seems to be gone"
I had the same problem few days ago with a couple of sites but I was not wotrried both indexes came back.All this problems guys are temporary just be patience and wait the next backlink & page rank update.

steveb

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:51 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

jaffstar, search for the page for something besides what you normally do (but that it would obviously rank for, or for two words in quotes. It will probably reappear. It kinda looks like every search result is being returned from a database 75% full, but different for every search.

MikeMike

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:53 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Homepage seems to be gone"

Same happened to me. Mine was gone yesterday and back again this morning.

jaffstar

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Msg#: 34753 posted 7:56 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

It will probably reappear.

SteveB, it did :) However, for about 100 kw's where the homepage "would" usually rank, they now do not. Sub-pages now seem to rank at the bottom of the index for the 100 kw's that used to rank. ie used to rank no 1 for "widgets" for www.mysite.com, now rank 400 for www.mysite.com/subpage.

It kinda looks like every search result is being returned from a database 75% full, but different for every search.

Can you please elaborate?

newwebster

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Msg#: 34753 posted 8:04 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Comcast search now shows completely different set of results. Absoulutely no similarities with any data centers. Anyone else?

Yes, very scary results. I think it is official, Google has gone schizo on us.

UK_Web_Guy

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Msg#: 34753 posted 8:06 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

RE "homepage missing" - does it appear if you add &filter=0 to the end of the search string?

I think it was toothake that mentioned this a couple of days back.

Elixir

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Msg#: 34753 posted 9:57 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

What a mess sit it out it all comes out in the wash eventually. Some keywords are back some are not this morning they were all AWOL.

atlrus

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Msg#: 34753 posted 10:20 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

It must be temporary - where I monitor - every result after 40 is nothing but inner pages...

Oh, yeah , plus 1,600,000,000 returned results ;)

phpdude

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Msg#: 34753 posted 10:25 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's actually quite sad that the head of their Spam team (MC) goes on vacation for 6 weeks and all heck breaks loose with the SERPS.

Somebody broke something in the Plex...

JoeSinkwitz

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Msg#: 34753 posted 11:11 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Steveb's 75% database theory seems to be the most plausible at this point, and it really is on a query-by-query basis as the data is torn and rebuilt. I've now watched several big terms cycle through the DCs for established sites disappearing and then popping back in.

For those with a vested interest in the outcome, I don't think watching the DCs this weekend is going to have a positive effect on your sanity. For phrases that I saw disappear and then come back, the overall quality seems a bit higher, and assuming that Google's goal is more relevancy (tinfoil hats aside), I don't think you'll have too much to worry about when all is said and done.

With so many operators gone wild and various craziness when adding the &filter=0 or using ""s, we know it isn't done cooking yet. The best I can offer is that the magically delicious disappearing, reappearing results HAVE been coming back. Disappear from the DC watch this weekend; I'm sure next week will be equally exciting for us.



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