i'm seeing a load of "sandboxed" sites of mine in some very nice positions, i assume this may not yet be final.
is it me or is on-page optimisation being given more weight?
18.104.22.168 default DC for my work btopenworld is the Isp and am based in Glasgow. I think this is a good idea getting all the info together for the uk as it can only lead to better knowledge of what is happening. I am also getting these results from my home add as well. do you want those details too?
|do you want those details too? |
Yes please the more info we have the better.
Home DC 22.214.171.124 ISP tiscali and glasgow again. Let me know what you are thinking and what you are finding as I would like to help cause this is causing me no end of worry which shouldn't be right on a lovely sunny day like this. Time for a beer now me thinks and get on with watching the footy.
I'm in glasgow too and your right - it is time for a beer!
|Those results will never become the norm for the simple reason that because many websites have now only the Dmoz title that in many cases is so stuped that instead of title has the domain |
Toothache, I understand where you are coming from and it is a good observation, however, have you considered that how Google determines their rankings and how they display their rankings may be completely separate?
Letís say I have Data Set A, aka the ranking algorithm. It looks at the cache and shards and determines the best order for the query.
Next I have Data Set B, aka the display results algorithm. It looks at the cache and shards and determines the best way to display each result.
If would be a simple matter to turn-off processing on Data Set B and default it to DMOZ or the description meta tag without affecting Data Set A. This would make sense in a testing situation, as it would add a level of simplicity and standardization to the testing cycle without affecting the test results.
Do I know this is happening? No, I do not. But if I were testing something I would want all factors static except for the variables that I am testing. It would also help me to more easily conduct visual assessments, as there would be consistent visual cues for my brain to recognize.
>> Now if John use to rank top for widgets in uganda now is nowhere to be found because of the above title without he's own title description and keywords ,now the side effect is what you see on those "new serps" pages have lost positions because of they rank according to the stuped ODP title and description. <<
Why does everyone assume that just because the ODP title is being shown in the SERPs, that the real page title has not been taken into account for the ranking?
That is, irrespective of what is shown in the SERPs for the title and snippet, Google does have a copy of the real page and does know exactly what is on it. Why do you assume that that content has not been taken into account?
"not been taken into account for the ranking? "
For the simple reason that I follow some sites (not mine) that used to see them at 1st page when I was just typing 2 words now or they have been moved to page 50 or page 3 ,10 and so one on those test DC's as a side effect other pages have taken there positions and that's why you see those new SERPS ,but as I mention before it must be an other test fase ,BTW all of you that have ODP listed sites do the site command and you'll see your index with the ODP title.
Google may simply be testing DMOZ titles for click throughs...they tend to be somewhat relevant to the query...though they lack depth and information like one can set up in a "normal" page title...
I am seeing this for one datacenter only...as it rotates in and out of the SERPs cycle...
"This algo definately likes links from forums, unreated sites and high pr pages! Sweet!"
Exactly why I doubt it will stick.
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