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Datacenter Watch:2006-06-05
Komodo_Tale




msg:773853
 2:44 pm on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from: [webmasterworld.com...] >

As we enter into a new datacenter thread, the new(er)Goog-licious results are showing on

64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.179.107
64.233.179.99
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
64.233.187.107

These results are also being fed to select partners, such as Comcast, who show Google provided results.

[edited by: tedster at 1:16 am (utc) on June 15, 2006]

 

bobothecat




msg:773973
 11:18 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Has this ever in the past reached a determination? All we can do is make observations.

Similar to rolling dice... no? :)

Komodo_Tale




msg:773974
 11:27 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

What I see are highly relavent and topical links being rewarded, even topically relavent recipricals. I am seeing sites with fewer links, but of higher topicality, ranking above sites with more links.

I'd hold-off on buying a bunch of sitewides untill you throughoughly explore your own competitive sector.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:773975
 1:45 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can not believe the amount of DC's that are showing the DMOZ titles for sites and not the true site titles.

The results on those DC's are awful.

outland88




msg:773976
 3:29 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm already seeing some dramatic shifts away from what people have being seeing, for the past 48 hours, on the DC's.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:773977
 4:15 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see them bouncing around, but not backing out.

I do believe they will, but I do not see it right now.

foolsgold




msg:773978
 7:11 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see the 'new' results on 33 DC's so far - any higher bids?

petehols




msg:773979
 7:32 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Foolsgold

I am seeing new results on 36 DCs so far. Yesterday it was only 22. Climbing now and hopefull the results are spreading.

Pete

dedoo




msg:773980
 8:18 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you reload the page showing the results from the DC's you have a whole different count.

I opened one of the DC's and kept reloading it changes back and forth to old and new results

soapystar




msg:773981
 8:40 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

this new look google is win win....any old link will do...as long as its not a recip...so grab what you can..then if and when things change all those spammed links wont hurt you (theory being if they can hurt you then you can take out all your competitors)..they will just be ignored...so fill your boots!

toothake




msg:773982
 9:21 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

"DC's that are showing the DMOZ titles "
recon is a temporary test.
Google is looking for ODP listed sites first to continue with indexing.Plus many sites that have lost PR in Google directory now is time to get it back.
My 1cent

Komodo_Tale




msg:773983
 9:41 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

If I know Google I suspect that they had the DMOZ description turned on during the testing phase to reduce cpu processing or to simplify things. My guess is that, if the new results become the norm, they will switch back to algorithmically crafted descriptions.

SpanishWeb




msg:773984
 9:52 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

My pages are NOT showing their dmoz titles and descriptions... (ok, only one).

toothake




msg:773985
 10:11 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

"My guess is that, if the new results become the norm"
Those results will never become the norm for the simple reason that because many websites have now only the Dmoz title that in many cases is so stuped that instead of title has the domain
like
widgets.com
John's page that offers widgets and gadgets.
Now if John use to rank top for widgets in uganda now is nowhere to be found because of the above title without he's own title description and keywords ,now the side effect is what you see on those "new serps" pages have lost positions because of they rank according to the stuped ODP title and description (that an idiot ODP web troll "editor" put there whithout asking the owner of the page).If that will stay like that i guess we will see many threads about ODP and Google listings.(Another problem of the Big Daddy?)

toothake




msg:773986
 10:14 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

"My pages are NOT showing their dmoz titles and descriptions... (ok, only one)."
Have you check if this one has no PR in google directory?

petehols




msg:773987
 10:17 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi

My site isn't even listed in the google directory or dmoz. So the argument is invalid. I was holding top of page 2 and now I am number 4 with the title of my page the way it should be. How come?

Pete

lgn1




msg:773988
 10:59 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well I see it across 35 datacenters now (based on 3 reloads of each datacenter set, to detect and include the ones that have not stabilzed on the new results). The only real holdouts are:

72.14.203.x
72.14.207.x
64.233.171.x

Im getting more confident now, as last time Google pulled the plug after 33 datacenters.

Once we see the last 3 groupings switch, I will be more confident to call this an update.

petehols




msg:773989
 11:09 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Lgn1

That is the last 3 that I am waiting on also. I usually use the 72.xx DCs as standard if they get changed over to the "new" results then yes I would tend to agree that this is an update also. My confidence is holding up but I have been here before to get my hopes dashed at the last minute.

Pete

SpanishWeb




msg:773990
 11:29 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)


"My pages are NOT showing their dmoz titles and descriptions... (ok, only one)."
Have you check if this one has no PR in google directory?

Yes, this website has PR6. It's old.

Anyway, how many DCs has google?

petehall




msg:773991
 11:35 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Those results will never become the norm for the simple reason that because many websites have now only the Dmoz title that in many cases is so stuped that instead of title has the domain

Don't listen to this man, he drinks beer all day long.

I now see the results fixed on 33 DCs as someone mentioned.

claimsweb




msg:773992
 11:47 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can see a few not so credible org sites now doing well.

They have nothing going for them apart from the org factor.

Kangol




msg:773993
 11:47 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm nowhere to be found since today on the new DCs. I am looking on 64.233.179.104 and I have a canonical problem which was fixed several months ago. Am I the only one with canonical and supplemental problems on the new DCs?

claimsweb




msg:773994
 12:02 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looking at the new set of serps in my sector I see no change apart from the odd site here or there that has crept in to the top 20.

The serps have really stayed more or less the same for the last 6-8 months.

Its almost as though Google has tagged the top dozen or so sites with an authority or trust rank that means they are unaffected by the re-shuffles.

In some sectors I think that the "trusted" sites have already been decided and the rest are fighting for scraps. Those sites that have made it into the elite group are not necessarily those with high PR but the one common feature is that they have all been around for a long while and have well established links (both recip and one ways)

Just an observation

Blade3




msg:773995
 12:51 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

My site vanished suddenly from 35th position to nowhere for main keyword. The default data center is 66.102.7.104. Can DataCenter Watchers have a look at the above data center for any drastic changes? May be you will get some info.

Thank you.

dataguy




msg:773996
 12:57 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Last week when the new results appeared on just 6 DC's, my primary site got a 25% boost in traffic, which lasted all week. This week, when the results went to 12 DC's, then 26, then 35, my traffic has remained within 1-2% of last weeks numbers. Big disapointment. Anybody else having a similar experience?

petehols




msg:773997
 1:02 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

yeah same for me i have only seen a spike in traffic yesterday and only on 1 site. The other sites I deal with in the travel industry are holding good positions but still not getting the traffic i think I should and that is now on 36 DCs

pete

theblackjeep




msg:773998
 1:13 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am not seeing any real spike in traffic on any of my sites, even though I am way up.

lgn1




msg:773999
 1:41 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Im seeing on average a 30% increase in organic traffic since the beginning of the week.

Hissingsid




msg:774000
 1:56 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am not seeing any real spike in traffic on any of my sites, even though I am way up.

Are you way up on the default DCs that your potential users are using though?

I'm in the UK and have recently seen spikes in traffic when I've had crap results on my default DC. I assume that this is because some big ISP(s) or geographical area in the UK is being fed by a different default DC with results more to my liking than the one I'm seeing.

Our target search terms are and product is very UK centric so even if we were #1 in Seatle we would get zip traffic from there. That's why DC watching is pretty futile for us Limeys until the DCs that serve us kick in with improved results.

Sid

petehols




msg:774001
 2:30 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Hissingsid

I am also in the uk and the results from my default DC are great. But in my industry I need traffic from worldwide as I am in the travel industry so there is no orientation where I get the traffic from. My default DC result is good but traffic only improved by about 10% to 15%.

Pete

Hissingsid




msg:774002
 2:43 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Pete,

Where are you, who is your ISP and what is the IP of your default DC at the moment?

I'm trying to start a thread (currently on editorial hold) to share this information amongst UK based folks so that we can get a picture of which DCs are feeding us.

Best wishes

Sid

hughie




msg:774003
 2:46 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

i'm seeing a load of "sandboxed" sites of mine in some very nice positions, i assume this may not yet be final.

also......

is it me or is on-page optimisation being given more weight?

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