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Datacenter Watch:2006-06-05
Komodo_Tale




msg:773853
 2:44 pm on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from: [webmasterworld.com...] >

As we enter into a new datacenter thread, the new(er)Goog-licious results are showing on

64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.179.107
64.233.179.99
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
64.233.187.107

These results are also being fed to select partners, such as Comcast, who show Google provided results.

[edited by: tedster at 1:16 am (utc) on June 15, 2006]

 

petehall




msg:773913
 4:23 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm doin well overall ,but the update will be after a major backlink and PR update ,that,s all fox.Enjoy the summer go out for a beer and stop waste your time at Mcdar.

After work which is around 6pm (UK) I'll be going for a beer, then fishing later on but thanks for the tip!

More DCs... MLHmptn let's wash this update down with a beer ;)

lgn1




msg:773914
 4:53 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

One thing I can tell you about this update, I have not seen such good results for our site since Florida. Where we lost our 5 year reign in the top 3 positions.

Over the past three years we refused to play the recep. link gathering game, and have concentrated on content and on-page factors.

We are finally being rewarded for sticking to the "content is king" prinicpal.

I beleive that google are now taking in account, factors that determine rank by the entire web site as a whole and not just a few individual optimized pages.

We are now up to 27 datacenters with the 'good, pete's, update or whatever you want to call it results).

The big question is, will these results actually stick.

reseller




msg:773915
 5:03 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

lgn1

"The big question is, will these results actually stick."

I guess, deep in your heart you know those results aren't going to stick ;-)

When we reach August, then we might start talking about results that stick for longer or shorter periods.

dedoo




msg:773916
 5:52 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

the shifts have been coming and going the past few months but what changed the last month or so is that the results from these datacenters or at least the results from them are showing in my sitemap diagnostics.

can anyone else confirm seeing the results from these DC's in his Sitemap statistics?

petehols




msg:773917
 6:13 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi All

I am seeing the datacentres updating as well. No changes made to the site since the BD roll out. These are the best results I've seen for a long time. Let's hope it rolls out to all DCs.

Here's Hoping

Pete

randle




msg:773918
 6:17 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

We can see the number of data centers displaying these results, but what we don’t know is how often these data centers get displayed to Joe surfer. I know there are load balancing ramifications, but I don’t think there displayed equally. In addition, these data centers could have different purposes beyond load balancing.

It seems some data centers get displayed significantly more than others.

Phil_AM




msg:773919
 7:12 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Whatever these DC's are doing is givimg me stomach cramps and diarhhea....

Riddle me this:

If this is an update, how could my site have completely disappeared from SERPS for my main tier kw's but have me in the same position for Tier 2 kw's?

Example:

Widget (tier 1)
Online widget (tier 2)

Only changes to the site was a permanent redirect from non-www to www (1 month ago).

I'm going to go refill my pepto bottle....

oaktown




msg:773920
 9:05 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Phil_Am,

That's EXACTLY what's driving me nuts too.

red widgets - was in top 40, now gone on many DCs
red widgets lost - still in top 20
big red widgets - still in top 10
red widgets thin - still number 1

I too am asking, how can this be an update? Are they just twisting the knobs randomly in the googleplex?

soapystar




msg:773921
 9:13 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

your only just seeing that?....theres been a filter for certain matches of a keyphrase for months....i call it the near match filter....its where you find you dont rank for an exact match of the topic of a page but you do rank for near matches...it means where the near match is actually another topic you rank for the wrong topic but not the correct topic....its google gone nuts!

Phil_AM




msg:773922
 9:24 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Lol, Google Gone Nuts eh? Sorta like, Girls Gone Wild!

I have only just noticed it because it has only just happened on the DC's within this update.

But, as I've learned, drink some pepto go to sleep and when you wake up, the DC's will be completely different!

Komodo_Tale




msg:773923
 9:34 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can confirm that these results are live on Google.com for part of Google’s load sharing. The new results share of load increased dramatically today. Also, these results are appearing in my own geographic area (Seattle), something that has only occurred infrequently and briefly during the past few weeks.

Remember, last month these results propagated then retreated, so it is not a given that they will stick.

Jesse_Smith




msg:773924
 9:54 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see the good results in everything BUT Google.com for site: . Only the IP address searches have the good results!

sandpetra




msg:773925
 11:23 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am vying for a very competitive keyword in the financial sector.

I am seeing irregular results on different datacentres. On most, and in the seemingly main, results, I languish at 180th or so - albeit this was a jump into the index 'from nowhere' in the last six weeks

On ten datacentres this week I was in position 30 out of tens of millions - so Google is trying to push my site up the results it seems, on some datacentres at least.

Can someone tell me if this bodes well, based on your previous experience?

Although I see at the time of writing I'm back at 180!

On this DC - 64.233.167.104/

sandpetra




msg:773926
 11:32 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Wow - But I'm 5th on the seo tools pagerank checker - whatever DC that looks at! What's going on?

decaff




msg:773927
 11:46 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Each data center has a different set of algo threshold filters running...so you would see one set of results on one center and something either slightly or drastically different on another...Google then has some sort of rotation algo set for all datacenters (this algo with its own set of knobs)...and away they go....

All along they are analyzing usability data from the 200 million or so daily queries...and then looking at their "acceptable thresholds" parameters...

Komodo_Tale




msg:773928
 11:59 pm on Jun 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Based on the University of Washington Google video, slight variations are most probably caused because each geographically located server farm has slightly different information – they are not all in sync. Different bots report to different server farms, which then spread the results to other server farms. Whichever server farm receives and processes the information first will immediately use that data while the other server farms catch-up.

MLHmptn




msg:773929
 12:04 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)


Each data center has a different set of algo threshold filters running...so you would see one set of results on one center and something either slightly or drastically different on another...Google then has some sort of rotation algo set for all datacenters (this algo with its own set of knobs)...and away they go....
All along they are analyzing usability data from the 200 million or so daily queries...and then looking at their "acceptable thresholds" parameters...

Very good analogy about that decaff. Hopefully it will just settle! 3 sets of SERP's out there now....They are definitely playing now the only question is where will they settle and like I said earlier....Are we on the heels of an update?!

Instigator




msg:773930
 1:27 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

The new set must have been live at some point in the last 24 hours, on google.co.uk

Hits to my site were up massively for a time, but have now dropped off again.

Hissingsid




msg:773931
 8:20 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Instigator,

Different data centers serve different ISPs and geographical regions in the UK. So .co.uk may have had the new results live on say BTs .co.uk but not on others. I've noticed some days where my own .co.uk searches have the not so good results but clearly a big slug of UK users are getting the better results because my traffic soars.

Currently I'm getting results from 66.102.9.104 which is exactly the same data centre as is serving me .com results.

I've noted other DCs serving my .co.uk results for example I had 64.233.183.99 for a while which is now serving the good stuff.

My point is that you can't tell what results other folks in the UK (your potential users) are seeing so it is almost impossible to try and evaluate what is or is not working.

Best wishes

Sid

thecityofgold2005




msg:773932
 9:50 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Serps are jumping up and down minute to minute. Whether this is an 'update' or 'everflux' it does look like we are seeing a change.

Could it be a change in the handling of suplementals?..

Angelis




msg:773933
 10:46 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone considered a backlink update, a site I look after has lost nearly 35k backlinks in the last 4 days.

cristinita




msg:773934
 11:23 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

it seems that the new (good? bad?) serps are in retreat mode...already disappearing in some DCs

anyone else noticing that?

avalanche101




msg:773935
 11:24 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Don't know if they are in retreat, it looks like they are being mixed with another set.

Angelis




msg:773936
 11:25 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Things are moving around but most of the new listings seem to be staying for us. A few drops by a couple of positions but nothing major.

petehols




msg:773937
 11:42 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yeah I noticed the listings dropped off for about an hour but they appear to be back on again. I am currently holding #5 position on about 30 DCs so far. Hopefully these results will stick.

Pete

JoaoJose




msg:773938
 12:17 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'me getting the new results on my default google.pt page.

DC:66.249.85.104

Looks very good. Google is being able to distinguish brazilian sites from portuguese sites even if they have have a .com domain and are hosted on the US.

Probably looking at DMOZ data and linking patterns between sites. Very smart.

broker_boy




msg:773939
 1:37 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see the results in retreat thanks god!

Cheers,

BB

dedoo




msg:773940
 2:03 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

retreat? not from here I still see 25 DC's showing the results.

It changes every second though but that's no change.
If you reload the page from one of those DC's you see the "old" results one time and the "new" the next

trinorthlighting




msg:773941
 2:03 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have lost back links as well, it started around the 17th and 18th of May. I have noticed as google began to drop pages out of the index they also dropped the backlinks as well.

Angelis




msg:773942
 2:30 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is definatly no "retreat" as you put it, if anything things are still going forward..

petehall




msg:773943
 2:49 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see them at 26 currently... definitely no retreat:
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.147
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.161.107
64.233.161.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.107
64.233.179.104
64.233.183.99
64.233.183.107
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104
216.239.53.107
216.239.57.107
216.239.59.99
216.239.59.104
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147
216.239.63.104

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