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Data Center Watch 2006-05-18
g1smd




msg:718044
 11:01 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Continued from:
[webmasterworld.com...]

I have been away for a week (just a quick look in, a couple of times during the week, even though I was supposed to be on "holiday") and while I was away Google got rid of the results that I previously referred to as BigDaddy A and B leaving only the experimental results, and the cleaned up version (with the oldest supplementals deleted) left behind, and the "cleaned up" version is the one that is on the vast majority of the datacentres now.

The "same snippet for every page" problem has also been fixed.

Sites that installed a 301 redirect before 2005 June no longer show the redirected URL in the SERPs.

Pages that went 404, and sites that went domain expired, before 2005 June no longer show up in the search results.

New Supplemental Results have appeared for any pages that have changed their status or their content at any time since 2005 June. For pages that are gone, the Supplemental Result has a cache of the final version that was online. For pages that have been updated, the Supplemental Result shows the previous content in the snippet, and the normal result shows current content in the snippet. In both cases the cache is usually only a few days or weeks old.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:36 pm (utc) on May 19, 2006]

 

petehall




msg:718134
 8:22 am on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing the new results spreading everywhere

Really? I now see it on less DCs again.

fred9989




msg:718135
 11:47 am on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

The "good" results seem to be spreading slowly.

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I just had an idea...an online stress management course for Google datacenterwatchers. Anyone think there's a market for this?!
Rod

petehall




msg:718136
 1:22 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

The "good" results seem to be spreading slowly.

We must be talking about opposite "good" results as I se the opposite.

I just had an idea...an online stress management course for Google datacenterwatchers. Anyone think there's a market for this?!

I am customer number one... please sign me up for at least three years service :)

King of all Sales




msg:718137
 2:15 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

petehall-

Just an observation: For one important and very competitive keyword we monitor, we rank well on the "good" datacenters and not so well on the rest (page 6).

On all datacenters, we rank well for allinanchor & allintitle for that keyword but here's the difference. On the good datacenters, we are on the top of the second page for allintext but we don't show up at all in the rest of the datacenters. I've checked to about 700 results.

lgn1




msg:718138
 3:30 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Im only seeing the "Good Results on 5 Datacenters".

On the positive side, We are also moving up in position for the "Bad" datacenters.

nippi




msg:718139
 2:49 am on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

i spoke to soon, we saw things spread, then fall away, seems to be a daily thing at the moment, starting from 2pm australian time.

nippi




msg:718140
 5:06 am on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

and here we go, its after 2pm in australia, and the new results are showing

followgreg




msg:718141
 5:31 am on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)


I see new results here too on 64.233.187.99

Not sur if it is new or rolled back yet though...

nippi




msg:718142
 5:47 am on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

has to be new for my sites, they are too new to be rolled back

stakaman




msg:718143
 1:53 pm on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Don't want to dissapoint anyone but 64.233.187.99 seems like a heavy anchor-text and keyword stuffing type of place.

Any joy might be short-lived on this datacentre. Someone is playing with the filters there...;)

stakaman




msg:718144
 2:04 pm on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just an observation on datacentre updates in general:

Pre BigDaddy Google used to 'relax' the filters during an update. The effect was lots of traffic for websites burried in the search results. So many people felt like Christmas during that period and returned to the usual dose of Prozac after the end of the update.

Post BigDaddy the engineers can now play with the filters without going public with the results, or by using more obscure datacentres and although some of these do sneak back in to the main index for short periods of time they are not long enough there to cause a major upset.

Hope that I am making sense here...

outland88




msg:718145
 7:12 pm on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

You got it about right on both posts Stakaman. Those good results referred to have been sitting there for quite a while. I also see them as to commerce intensive (order forms) for Google not to exact a price on them with filters. I always hope to be wrong.

nippi




msg:718146
 3:03 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

early afternoon here in australia, and here come the updated results on many datacentres that i am seeing.

MLHmptn




msg:718147
 8:06 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Once again the great results are appearing on the following Google search partners....

search.comcast.net
home.att.net/find_members.html
www.business.com
search.earthlink.net

These are the results some of us seen a few weeks back and they are here yet again. Not a single datacenter reflects these results either!

Will the madness ever end Google?!

steveb




msg:718148
 8:26 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yup there they are again.

<panic ensues at the Googleplex... "who forgot to put the garbage in the comcast feed again?!">

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The earthlink ones at least are switching back and forth between the good ones and a normal batch of crappier ones, so refresh your page a few times.

MLHmptn




msg:718149
 8:36 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Laugh, steveb!

<panic ensues at the Googleplex... "who forgot to put the garbage in the comcast feed again?!">

Watch within hours the results will switch back to normal....

< "We can't expose the good results or our adwords dollars will diminish!, FIX IT MC!" >

The earthlink ones at least are switching back and forth between the good ones and a normal batch of crappier ones, so refresh your page a few times.

Been noticing that myself...But the others seem to be pretty solid all night long.

stevexyz




msg:718150
 8:44 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

now on google.co.uk

MLHmptn




msg:718151
 8:53 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

google.co.uk not showing same results for me ;(

72.14.203.104 is the DC serving my request. Or so WE THINK :>~

stevexyz




msg:718152
 9:03 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

google.co.uk - its now off again. Lasted for about 10 minutes

stevexyz




msg:718153
 9:04 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

google.co.nz - I am based in New Zealand

kneukm03




msg:718154
 2:33 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think these "good results" have been occasionally popping into normal Google for the last few days. I've been seeing searches for a keyword on page two for a sandboxed site for the last few days, but the site only gets Google traffic in little short bursts - for like half an hour it will get several Google hits, then nothing. That's happened about 5 times over the last three days. When I went to check, it's nowhere on any of the datacenters. But sure enough, it's on Comcast this morning on page two.

dataguy




msg:718155
 4:43 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've never subscribed to the conspiracy theories about Google using irrelevant SERPs to force people into AdWords/AdSense, but to fan the flame, isn't it funny that the GOOD results are being displayed at 3rd party portals where AdWords ads aren't being displayed?

b2net




msg:718156
 6:24 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I haven't been able to spot these new results yet but are they similar to what Google showed 16th and 17th of May?

I have one site that dropped down in the SERPs on March 30 but was back on top on those two days. I've been hoping for it to make a comeback that will last a little longer. Any hopes on this or are the current "good" test results different with more filters turned on etc?

steveb




msg:718157
 11:03 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

These results are completely different than anything on Google. Just go to comcast.net if you want to see them.

federico




msg:718158
 12:20 am on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

we lost all traffic on March 30 and on comcast.com we are certainly not back (nor on G for that matter)

federico




msg:718159
 12:20 am on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

comcast.net - sorry

stevexyz




msg:718160
 2:55 am on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

The "good results" also appear in the Adsense search function adverts.

stevexyz




msg:718161
 3:17 am on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Damn - I see the adsense search results are also "on & off"

jaymer




msg:718162
 12:08 pm on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

So, these 'good' results on the 8 datacentres, do we think these will actually go live throughout google at some point, or are they just something to get us excited?

reseller




msg:718163
 12:35 pm on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

jaymer

"So, these 'good' results on the 8 datacentres, do we think these will actually go live throughout google at some point, or are they just something to get us excited?"

I guess Google's engineers keep on repairing and tweaking the poor BigDaddy. And I wouldn't be surprised, if they hurry (after each repair and tweaking) to this thread to read our reactions.

Sooooo. In future if you like what you see on specific DCs, you may wish to post; I don't like what I see. That way, Google engineers might keep the results you like :-)

Dayo_UK




msg:718164
 12:46 pm on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>Sooooo. In future if you like what you see on specific DCs, you may wish to post; I don't like what I see. That way, Google engineers might keep the results you like :-)

Lol - wishful thinking Reseller.

I wonder if Google are just holding back on updating DCs etc while they are still figuring out the hyphen domain site problem thing.

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