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Google Introduces 4 Pack of New Services
Brett_Tabke




msg:727996
 7:55 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reuters: [today.reuters.com]

Three new products - Google Co-op, Google Desktop 4, and Google Notebook - advance the state of the art in search by helping users worldwide find and share more relevant information. The products all incorporate new capabilities that leverage user communities, enabling users to either share more information with others or benefit from other users' expertise to improve the accuracy of search results.

However, the most interesting of the bunch to our crew, is : Google Trends: [google.com...]

The company also introduced Google Trends, a new tool that enables users to examine billions of searches conducted on Google to gain insight into broad search patterns over time.

 

treeline




msg:727997
 7:57 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Wow! That's a really cool way to see which search terms really have the most traffic.

treeline




msg:727998
 8:00 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ouch! But Trends bails out on niche keywords:
Your terms - folding widgets, bent widgets - do not have enough search volume to show graphs.

oddsod




msg:727999
 8:17 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

MC spoke about coop on his blog but his link goes to a 404.

JoaoJose




msg:728000
 8:27 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does your website's name show up on trends? hehe Webmasterworld shows but I think these trends are a little messed up...

Shurik




msg:728001
 8:36 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google Trends appears to be a nice tool. Does anyone know whether the graph is logarithmic or linear?

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:728002
 8:54 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

From what I see it's dogarithmic! Nothing more than a toy ... for amusement only.

glengara




msg:728003
 8:57 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is G becoming like GM?

Lots of products......

hdpt00




msg:728004
 8:57 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

normalized linear

metrofeed




msg:728005
 8:57 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have more information on Google Co-op? What is it?

johncory




msg:728006
 9:08 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

I really like the city/region distinctions. I wonder how accurate they are?

Here are some my fun trials:

terror, terrorist
bush smart, bush stupid
sex, music
happiness, sadness
apple, mac, microsoft, linux
html, php, asp, css
wal mart, wal-mart, walmart, ikea

Wow, so cool!

Pass the Dutchie




msg:728007
 9:10 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

not that impressed with trends. Bit of a gimmick with as much guidance as the tool bar.

tedster




msg:728008
 9:15 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google has launched Google Co-op, a service that lets users subscribe to the “favorites” or “bookmarks” of experts, thus improving the relevance of search results.

[pandia.com...]

One common example here is subscribing to the bookmarks of medical expertsto get more relveant health searches -- likely the source for the "Google Health" rumor of last week.

wmuser




msg:728009
 9:29 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nice tool,something like inventory overture but much more comprehensive

glitterball




msg:728010
 10:48 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Fantastic tool, I've confirmed quite a few theories that I had from these stats!

eWhisper




msg:728011
 10:59 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately, the trend data is based upon the same data that is used for the AdWords estimator.

There are sites that get quite a bit of search volume, but the trend data doesn't reflect those numbers.

It seems Google has a pretty high threshold of total traffic before they consider it significant enough to show trend data.

Estimating the long tail trends, and how Geo-modified terms are changing is something that is still very lacking from the major engines.

However, the notebook looks to have some interesting applications. One of the biggest issues for people (such as me) is using multiple computers and having information synced properly.

incrediBILL




msg:728012
 11:15 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Almost every keyword I checked was in DECLINE from 2004, except dating, and the landmark even pushing it up appears to be PlentyofFish (couldnt resist(.

kaz




msg:728013
 11:17 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

One thing I noticed with the trend data is that the keyword popularity is not for exact matches. Thus the trend for widgets includes those for widgets, blue widgets and green widgets. I noticed this based on the results for 'rose' where it has a large spike on January 5th because of the 'rose bowl'.

pontifex




msg:728014
 12:10 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

do me a favour and dont blast that to hell by automatically check all your keyword relations :-)

P!

PaulPA




msg:728015
 1:11 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

This tool could prove very useful for anyone in a cyclical industry as it offers some insight into when interest begins to change (increase/decrease) and thus be good for helping set ad budgets.

bts111




msg:728016
 1:15 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone know of the link to the notebook product?

Ta

stevexyz




msg:728017
 1:46 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

[google.com...]

This gives you all the links to the products. Notebook - only available next week.

phish




msg:728018
 4:05 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Is G becoming like GM?
Lots of products...... "

Yeah...exactly like GM..lots of BAD products.

Bennie




msg:728019
 5:11 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Me too glitterball, it is accurate to some degree and there are some interesting things to derive from it.

Robert Charlton




msg:728020
 6:47 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google Trends...

It seems Google has a pretty high threshold of total traffic before they consider it significant enough to show trend data.

True, this tool seems to be mostly for the high volume two and three word searches, at least at this point. I notice that adding a very high traffic term into the mix can compress the bottom end of the graph, which is something that I've seen happen with the keyword suggestion tool too. And in some combinations, it sometimes drops terms out entirely, which I've seen the keyword do as well.

Nevertheless, I've already found Google Trends to be extremely useful in demonstrating where marketing emphasis needs to go on a multi product-line site (with high volume searches), something it would have taken a lot more work to do a couple of days ago.

bregan




msg:728021
 8:15 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

hdpt00:
normalized linear

Is there a source for that, or is this anecdotal?

Thanks.

cbx040




msg:728022
 8:46 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google notebook.

Now they even know what you are thinking about.

hermannen




msg:728023
 8:49 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Googling "google co-op" gives me this [google.com...]
as the third result..

bloke in a box




msg:728024
 10:30 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google Co-op is about sharing expertise. You can contribute your expertise and benefit when others do the same. Help other users find information more easily by creating "subscribed links" for your services and labeling webpages around the topics you know best.

This is a work in progress, but even in its early stages, Google Co-op has the potential to let you contribute your expertise to the overall goal of making information more discoverable for everyone.

Apologies mods, if that quote is too big.

Appears very interesting but I don't really understand what they're trying to do tbh. Seems far too open to abuse to me.

Just Guessing




msg:728025
 11:05 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Almost every keyword I checked was in DECLINE from 2004, except dating

That's what I found too - I tried lots of commercial search terms & current/new technology search terms and it showed the overall trend in Google's search volumes as static or declining!

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