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English pages added 'Translate this page' function on Google English?
irock

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Msg#: 34243 posted 2:49 am on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi, I run a English site, and recently moved my site to another server of the same host. One day, I was curious what country my new IP is in. To my horror, it's now outside America. It is in fact now in Argentina. My host told me it has to be a mistake on the part of the IP country database. I didn't look into it furthermore after that inquiry.

Yesterday, I saw some of my listings added with 'Translate this page' link on Google. When I clicked on the page, I saw my 100% English page being translated from Spanish to English. Then I realized that my server is recognized by IP country database as a Argentina site.

Could IP country DB be the cause? Should I move immediately?

Thanks!

 

tedster

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Msg#: 34243 posted 2:55 am on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

That "shouldn't" happen -- Google can pick up on several different signals. However, it does look quite suspicious and I can see why you're concerned.

There is a lot of instability on Google right now, so this might well be a temporary thing and an immediate reaction may not be warranted. Have you checked the results on several data centers?

elmarpanzenberger

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Msg#: 34243 posted 10:09 am on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem: since a week/10 days my german homepage sates the [translate] link in german serps. I haven't changed neither the server (which is in Italy) nor the page since a couple of months.
The interesting thing is, G tries to translate the page from english to german (would understand from italian to german since the server is in italy).
The page is even coded with meta language as de, german.

Maybe someone knows what is going on?

yves1

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Msg#: 34243 posted 1:23 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have exactly the same problem with one of my pages. It is written in English, its html tag says <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">, its meta desxcription and keyword tags say lang="en", and until 2 months ago, Google used to consider it as a page written in English.

Suddently, although I made no change to the page and did not move the host, Google added a [Translate this page] link to it in its SERPs. Obviously Google now considers this page as written in French.

The immediate consequence was a drop of ranking of this page in the google.com SERPs for a search in English, and a lift of ranking in Google France, google.fr (for a search in French or in English).

Background information:
- The site is hosted in France
- Most of the pages of this site are written in French
- The home + another page of this site are listed in the French section of Dmoz.
I suspected that all of these 3 factors, could influence the fact that Google now sees this page as "in French". But none of these 3 factors changed.

The only thing that changed is that in its continuous backlinks development process, the site gained most of it backlinks from sites hosted in France and written in French.

So far my conclusion would be that these French backlinks are the cause of the changed observed in Google. Unless Google has changed its criteria for language classification. Or maybe it is just a(nother) Google bug;)

irock

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Msg#: 34243 posted 2:09 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

You seem to have a lot of French stuff to trigger the "translate this page" link on your Google listings.

However, my site has ZERO Spanish, not even the popular forums where I can't control the language.

I haven't seen this anomaly before I switch my host to the new server whose IP belongs to Argentina.

elmarpanzenberger

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Msg#: 34243 posted 2:28 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

yves1:

even my german page(site) has heaps of english inbound links - this could indeed be one reason. A stupid on if you ask me since you can't control who links to you.

For me it looks like another G-bug.

xalex

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Msg#: 34243 posted 3:23 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem. I got lot of incomming links from French sites to my English site. Let see what happens.

kapow

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Msg#: 34243 posted 1:18 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google decides location by first checking domain e.g. .co.uk, if its global (e.g. .com) Google detects the host IP country.

This has come up many times.
Google are you listening?: Just announce a tag that lets site managers declaire their location. Its a big world and the internt removes national borders, people WILL host all over the world, AND they will often have a global domain like .com even though their site is intended for a specific country.

If you announce a tag that lets site managers declaire their location, your SERPs will be more accurate AND site managers will get the right visitors. Isn't that what you want?

First check for the country tag,
if none, check for the country domain,
if none, check country IP.

elmarpanzenberger

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Msg#: 34243 posted 8:19 am on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hy folks,

seems like sometimes wonders happen! Today G decided to flag my page as GERMAN :-) .

A couple of days ago i did a change in the coding of the page - indeed i had quite some javascript in the HEAD tags, BEFORE the METAs and before the LANGUAGE tag. I removed the script and put it back again but this time AFTER the whole META stuff.
I know, it sounds unlikely, but by now Google recognizes the page in it's real language.

revan

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Msg#: 34243 posted 10:56 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

irock, I dont know what to answer, but how on Earth did you get a server in Argentina? Man, I live right now in Argentina, and knowing the connection issues from ISPs here, I can tell you, switch to a US server right now!

Don't wait to see what happens, just run away, and be happy with a 100% blooded US server.

Be a patriot!

---

Talking seriously, if it was my case, I would switch, ASAP. How much time do you think the move could take? Not much I think. =)

irock

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Msg#: 34243 posted 11:53 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi, I think I didn't put this clearly. What I meant is that the IP used to belong to an ISP in Argentina, but now belongs to a USA ISP. But all IP country database states my IP still belongs to Argentina. So that pretty much explains why Google believes I'm a Spanish site.

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