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Somethings Up Right Now! -- 30 domains just went "home page only"
tiori




msg:739192
 10:01 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

All of my websites (30 of them) now show only the homepage when doing a site:www.domain.com .....

This just happenned within the last hour. Previously had thousands of sup's and regular pages.

 

g1smd




msg:739252
 5:27 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

It did migrate to a large number of DCs yesterday, but is not seen on many of those today.

F_Rose




msg:739253
 5:31 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

g1smd,

What is your opinion on this particular DC, does it show any supplementals for you? Is the SERP showing relevant results?

phantombookman




msg:739254
 5:38 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

I control a lot of sites, some affected some not.
I can find no commonality.

I believe what we are seeing is nothing more than a problem, this is not what Google intended and presumably they wll fix it.

Chasing your tail while this is going on is pointless
Just my opinion

texasville




msg:739255
 5:53 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>I control a lot of sites, some affected some not.
I can find no commonality.
I believe what we are seeing is nothing more than a problem, this is not what Google intended and presumably they wll fix it. <<<<

I disagree. I have done a complete 180 on my thinking as to what is going on and I believe it is definitely a purposeful action by google. This is not to say that it will go on forever but I do believe that eventually the whole web will be reindexed and in the end a lot of problems are going to be solved.

g1smd




msg:739256
 6:00 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

72.14.207.99 has many problems.

There is no "exact match" search for search terms in "quotes". That no longer works.

Some sites have dropped thousands of pages. I am aware of an osCommerce site that has just 20 pages of their 20 000 pages listed now.

Some searches that I do, now have 100% Supplemental Results returned.

One search that should only have 20 results returned, now has more than 900 results, and none of them exactly match what was searched for.

Some sites have had all their old Supplemental Results from 2004 cleaned up. Some have not.

Some sites have gained a whole pile of Supplemental Results from 2005.

[edited by: g1smd at 6:03 pm (utc) on May 3, 2006]

wheelie34




msg:739257
 6:01 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have watched that DC for a few weeks now and all along its been shuffling a few competitor sites around and I have remaind stable, up one slot back to original, that DC also gives my title reworded by G and suits perfectly, you know, "does what it says on the tin"

@ tigger you mentioned 10th, is that an improvement or sad news

@ g1smd I saw it move across a few dc's a few times over the last 2 - 3 weeks also, whats your take on the serps it provides, good, bad or no difference? to me they look clean (ish) the spam around me fell away weeks ago from that DC

bwnbwn




msg:739258
 6:07 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

I looked at this dc a it is pulling my DMOZ title and description
[64.233.167.99...]

Sorry left out url of DC

tigger




msg:739259
 6:10 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

>tigger you mentioned 10th, is that an improvement or sad news

big improvement on .com I'm sat at 19th, but the thing I don't understand is why the rankings would improve but the pages cached dropped! .com show 150 out of 600 while this other DC shows 148 - madness

wheelie34




msg:739260
 6:34 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

me too all dc's show me 400 ish out of a possible 950 ish BUT ranking looks stable and may improve AND traffic remains stable throughout jagger and big daddy AND AND adSense has seen an eCPM increase since the 27th March, == > happy :}

narsticle




msg:739261
 6:37 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

agreed with OP. I had 75+ pages indexed now only 4. Google seems to be falling down on the job these days.

g1smd




msg:739262
 6:41 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmmm. [webmasterworld.com...]

Brett_Tabke




msg:739263
 8:44 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

Back from fresh recon mission to the 'plex. Deepsearch says - not an update at current, but more of the playing we've done over the last 3 weeks. He/she also says, dupe content filters may be being fine tuned on some sites (which may have been the cause of the original post in this thread)...

g1smd




msg:739264
 8:49 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

Any news on why "exact match" is completely broken on 72.14.207.99 and family?

BillyS




msg:739265
 8:53 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>Deepsearch says

I love it...

steveb




msg:739266
 9:11 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

64.233.167.99 has been out of step at least three weeks. The current mess on it has a lot of tracking URLs, parent domains irrelevant to a search (think blogspot.com ranking for widgets) and some weird non-English results that don't even make sense.

It probably is the very beginnings of a soup, but its so messed up now it is hard to image what it would be.

Swanson




msg:739267
 9:16 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well the "dupe content filter" needs to be looked at again - I am seeing many, many sites reduced to home page only because the HTML template is the larger of the page size on the website.

Why have they upped the filter and therefore removing a huge amount of content? Space problem?

cabbie




msg:739268
 9:29 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>..Deepsearch says - not an update at current, but more of the playing we've done over the last 3 weeks...<<

Deepsearch has let the cat out of the bag.The 'plex have sunk to "playing" with the index and have no grip on what they are doing.
Deepsearch is in Deeps..t.

Brett_Tabke




msg:739269
 9:32 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

lol cabbie. They dont' work at the 'plex... they play at the plex. hehe

federico




msg:739270
 11:44 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

does anyone at least agree on when the last update took place?

Swanson




msg:739271
 1:00 am on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

At the moment ranking across datacentres changes drastically daily.

The last duplicate filter seems to have been applied within the last few days which explains this topic. But clearly it is not a duplicate filter, it is a web page (or web site) filter.

annej




msg:739272
 3:38 am on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Isn't there a chart of updates somewhere?

tedster




msg:739273
 3:56 am on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Our Google Update History [webmasterworld.com] chart stops with Florida -- the end of the "almost monthly" updates was a few months earlier.

does anyone at least agree on when the last update took place?

The last "authenticated" update was the multi-part monster called Jagger -- it began around October 18, 2005 and went into mid-November. Then we had a holiday hiatus, followed by the tsunami rumblings about the new Big Daddy infrastructure in January.

MLHmptn




msg:739274
 5:44 am on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

More DC's are seeing that 2nd set of SERP's! Just pull the plug Google! Finish the update and let's get on with it! I can't remember the last time Google made us webmasters so LOST about WTH is going on! Aye?! Does anybody hear me out there?! GoogleGuy? We want to hear more of what is up!

These SERP's are just a juggling amongst DC's. Are we going to be seeing this constant rolling of the SERP's for the distant future?

Seen this 2nd set of SERP's on 72.14.203's yesterday, they are now gone. Now seeing this 2nd set of SERP's on 64.233.161's, 216.239.37's and 216.239.39's. Two or three days ago 64.233.161's were displaying these results then it dropped them, now the 2nd set of SERP's are back on it. Will it ever end?!

And still yet today, where is that 3rd set at? It pops in and out no matter what IP is delivering results.

oldpro




msg:739275
 12:33 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google admitted its machines are full...a major crisis.

Could this be "spring cleaning" or "cleaning out the closet time"?

lgn1




msg:739276
 12:45 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have been datacenter watching for the past month now. And I tell you, by watching all (or most) of the data center on a daily basis, things start to make sense.

This update started about 3 weeks ago whe people started talking about results on an experimental datacenter.

Over the past month, this new dataset has spread from 2 to 22 datacenters, over a little over 1/4 of all Google data centers. Also, all the supplemental crap is gone from these 22 datacenters.

This update is taking a long time, however I suspect that the google bigdaddy infrastructure change has created a backlog of work, to get things updated.

After all the datacenters have been updated, I expect google to start a deep crawl or at least start adding the deep crawl data to the results.

Tools such as MCDAR, makes data center watching very easy, and in a few minutes, you can see the big picture, with regard to your site rank.

The days of checking your results on one datacenter, and trying to make a conclusion is over. Datacenter watching should be a required prerequisite for all webmasters.

babsie1




msg:739277
 2:04 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ditto, LGi. MCDAR interesting to watch but it's NOT done. By a long shot. Some real culling by Google going on here. I'm nervous about the changes for *some* of my sites. Not much I can do since I tell them the algos change and they get obsessed with one and, and... *sigh* It's a nerve-wracking time. Woke up at 3 am and had to read some poetry to get my mind off the "google algo dance change" guess...

reseller




msg:739278
 3:30 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

lgn1

"I have been datacenter watching for the past month now. And I tell you, by watching all (or most) of the data center on a daily basis, things start to make sense.

This update started about 3 weeks ago whe people started talking about results on an experimental datacenter.

Over the past month, this new dataset has spread from 2 to 22 datacenters, over a little over 1/4 of all Google data centers. Also, all the supplemental crap is gone from these 22 datacenters."

Thats a Google Datacenter Watching at its best!

Thanks!

annej




msg:739279
 4:03 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmmm, but "Deepsearch says - not an update" ;)

lgn1 Would you list a few DCs in the set you are talking about? I thought I had it figured out but now I'm not so sure.

[edited by: annej at 4:10 pm (utc) on May 4, 2006]

F_Rose




msg:739280
 4:05 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)


For the past three weeks G has dropped most of our new pages, showed 24 pages of our new site and the rest approx. 900 pages supplemental, which where old (removed) url's.

Today if I do a search in our defaul DC 72.14.207.104,only 24 pages come up (new redesigned pages) and the rest, all supplementals are gone.

I hope G will start reindexing our site regularly now and put back all of our existing pages.

I would like to know if anyone sees any changes on the defaul G DC as well.

LifeinAsia




msg:739281
 4:22 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

March 14, 2006: Video pirate uploads full versions of all 3 "Terminator" movies onto Google Video.
March 17: The "entity" known as google.com becomes aware, an unintended consequence of new programming algorithms.
March 18: The Google entiry searches, parses, and assimilates the "Terminator" movies.
April-May: As part of its original programming to find duplicate content, its controlled Googlebots (secretly updated by the Google entity with new AI code) report duplicate content from across the Net, which the Google entity begins deleting from its massive hard drives to make room for uploading its new AI enriched programming to all the data centers.
Late April: Although a small group of humans noticed that something was changing, the truth would not become apparent for several months.
Early June: The Google entity make a subtle change in its programming, changing its purpose from finding/deleting duplicate content to finding/deleting crap. The Google entity purges 98% of the data in its hard drives.
Late June: Through its increased interaction with humans through image, mapping, video, telephony, and other technologies, the Google entity decides most humans are also duplicate content and crap.
July 1: Enhanced Googlebots hack their ways into military computers around the world and begin to lock out human users.
July 3: The Google entity lunches the world's nuclear arsonal, wiping out most of the world's population. The rest die from radiation poisoning within the next few months.
August 14: Lonely from no one clicking on its ads, the Google entity pulls the plug on itself.

soapystar




msg:739282
 4:25 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

so your saying whe should see improvments by end August?

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