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Google Data Centers Watch 2006-04-15
catch2948




msg:759702
 1:35 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

For those of you who may be seeing strange results on the following DCs:

72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104

Do a site:mydomain.com check for your site & check the pages that are returned.

Do the serp titles & descriptions returned look close to being identical (eg. site-wide title and description tags maybe)?

I have an idea brewing :-)

[edited by: tedster at 7:39 pm (utc) on April 17, 2006]
[edit reason] start new thread [/edit]

 

jenkers




msg:759822
 1:54 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

from the sites I watch it looks to be rollback of about 3 weeks.

Ellio




msg:759823
 3:44 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is often talk on this forum of Google "Rolling Back" its index to a previous date on this or that DC.

Is there really any eveidence of this?

Simply because results look similar to a previous date does not mean that the entire index has been rolled back to a previous time.

Indeed if an index is rolled back what happens to the sites that were added after the rollback date.

I am sure it is just as difficult to rollback a live index as it is to fix it and a lot less sensible!

Interested see the evidence that rollback is indeed possible and is actually happening.

Miop




msg:759824
 4:02 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

A load of supplementals have reappeared for my site - from 2004. These were out of the index months ago - looks like a bit of a rollback for me!

jenkers




msg:759825
 5:18 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

<< Is there really any eveidence of this? >>

not really - my observation is based on a very strange and very specific set of results / indicators that have only been in play once in the 7 years I've been monitoring my sites. The chances of all of them happening again at the same time seem pretty slim (but I could be mistaken)

colin_h




msg:759826
 5:24 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I too keep a running list of "indicators" for my sites. Although I often see the odd site showing results that remind me of an earlier serp, I have rarely seen this repeated throughout my range of sites. I would have thought that if this rollback effect was actually occuring, it should show itself accross the board.

It may be that Google are just playing with parameters that have been used in the past and the resulting "rollback" is due to a particular characteristic in our sites responding to this tweek.

All the Best & a Good Weekend

Col :-)

MLHmptn




msg:759827
 5:26 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google is now using 64.233.167.99, 64.233.167.104 and 64.233.167.107 as the test bed for those sandboxed sites. Or so my guess is thats whats up.

Also I don't know if it was a rollback of PR, rather I think it is another PR update as my site was seen yesterday with a PR of 6 and now it's back to PR 4. My site has never been above a PR 5.

dataguy




msg:759828
 7:51 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I wish Google had rolled back their index to what it was 3 weeks ago... I'd be making about a thousand dollars a day more...

300m




msg:759829
 8:14 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

wish Google had rolled back their index to what it was 3 weeks ago... I'd be making about a thousand dollars a day more...

Hehe, i could not agree more...

reseller




msg:759830
 8:24 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

MLHmptn

"Also I don't know if it was a rollback of PR, rather I think it is another PR update as my site was seen yesterday with a PR of 6 and now it's back to PR 4. My site has never been above a PR 5."

I wouldn't pay much attention to PR values at present. The new infrastructure under heavy testing at the moment, IMO.

reseller




msg:759831
 8:43 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Vanessa Fox .....Very Interesting Post

Hi Folks

Inigo has invited Vanessa Fox from the Google Sitemaps team to blog.

And she has done a great job. Tips..tips...valuable tips :-)

[mattcutts.com...]

Enjoy.

mattg3




msg:759832
 8:47 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

LOL, i just checked, my "shop" has a PR 6 now...

This is a framed page with an affiliate in it. The actual affiliate site is 0 ...

Definitely more testing needed..

MLHmptn




msg:759833
 11:04 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)


I wouldn't pay much attention to PR values at present. The new infrastructure under heavy testing at the moment, IMO.

I would definitely have to agree. I thought it was quite strange to see a jump in PR just a few weeks after the last PR update. It's the weekend now so I'm not going to pay attention to any more of this flip flopping. Hopefully it will stabilize by Monday.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:759834
 5:23 am on Apr 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

For what it is worth, I see the same non .com URL problem that I have reported in the past on 64.233.167.147 and the other DC's in that c block.

This being: site.com appearing number 1 in the serps with site.ca and site.co.uk at number 2 and 3, while the .ca and .co.uk URL's offer little or no value to the serps.

reseller




msg:759835
 7:59 am on Apr 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Oh Google: Fly On The Wind Of Love... Fly Baby Flay :-)

Good morning Folks

Bright Sunny Wonderful Spring Day. So I'm driving with family today to south Sweden for few hours shopping, away of Google and its DCs :-)

Well...it seems that the DCs are still in everflux. And therefore I keep saying; Too early to issue final judgement.

However, its great oppotunity to follow progress of the new structure..

Wish you all a great day..

reseller




msg:759836
 10:25 pm on Apr 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Here are two DCs which might look more promissing as to search relevancy (and less spam sites at the top) than the rest. Keeping in mind that the Everflux of all Everfluxes continue in full power on all DCs ;-)

[64.233.167.99...]
[64.233.167.104...]

Of course all seen according to my test search query.

Good night..

tebrino




msg:759837
 1:08 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

These two DCs really show much better results for my test query (not related to my business). Only four spam/irrelevant results on the first page while other currently show 6-7

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:759838
 2:01 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reseller and Tibrino:

Granted, but those DC's have this problem:

For what it is worth, I see the same non .com URL problem that I have reported in the past on 64.233.167.147 and the other DC's in that c block.
This being: site.com appearing number 1 in the serps with site.ca and site.co.uk at number 2 and 3, while the .ca and .co.uk URL's offer little or no value to the serps.

like2golf




msg:759839
 2:20 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104

I likey! SPAM seems to have sunk a few pages on these DC's...

reseller




msg:759840
 9:52 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reporting Spam to Matt Cutts

Hi Folks

During the process of Google Datacenters Watching, most of us come across various kind of spam.

Personally, I report those spammers at once on:

[google.com...]

At present you may wish to write at top of your spam report "Att.: Mr. Matt Cutts"

Just to keep Matt busy :-)

And I know...some kind fellow members find it useless to report spammers to Google. However, others reported actions had been taken.

reseller




msg:759841
 2:36 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks

For the last few hours, I have noticed for my test search query a "new combination" within top 20 sites on the following two DCs which doesn't look like the rest of DCs.

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

It could be the everflux of course, but it could also be something else, ya know ;-)

MLHmptn




msg:759842
 2:13 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reseller, I have seen these same SERP's (or so I believe) that you have seen and they do indeed look even more relevant than what is being shown on any of the McDar's DC's. Strangely enough though I am only getting these results on like 1 refresh out of 50 or so. The DC I have seen this change is on 72.14.203.104. I haven't caught the change as of yet on .99. Well anyway, hopefully Google settles down soon as this infrastructure change is making a lot of us webmasters nuts.

reseller




msg:759843
 4:49 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good morning MLHmptn

I still see, as to this morning, the "improved" serps on both DCs

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

Have a great day

ramachandra




msg:759844
 5:36 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Today I am noticing the PR 5 for www.mydomain.com and www.mydomain.com/index.asp and listing both the pages.

Anyone over here seeing the same?

MLHmptn




msg:759845
 7:32 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Morning to you too Reseller....Actually bedtime here.

The SERP's I was seeing are not what I'm seeing 95% of the time returned on that DC. What I must have seen is this new update maybe? Like I said, I only seen it jump in twice on that DC in 40-50 refreshes. Maybe these people posting that a new update on .com.au is happening were the results I was seeing...I dunno...And like you asked them, maybe if they would post the IP we could further analyze it. All fingers crossed though as this set of SERP's I seen was an amazing sight from the relevancy perspective. But as far as supplemental and all the other issues I dunno...I only seen a short glimpse of it and with a refresh of the IP the results were gone.

petehall




msg:759846
 5:12 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I might stop believing myself that something interesting is going to happen.

De-boxing of sites is actually a not a great thing for me as I do work with a lot of very old established websites, but I see it as a flaw with Google.

I really thought the future was looking quite bright but now I'm not so sure. I still see these results on 64.233.167.147.

What really annoys me is SEO companies that are using their site to create doorway pages for companies and getting away with it (and it's working!).

Perhaps we should all do that as a temporary measure before de-boxing takes place.

reseller




msg:759847
 9:55 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good evening Folks

Ending a wonderful day with a mini watching report.

Well...they are still there..looks as great as ever..only on Google The Mother of All Search Engines :-)

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

Clean top 10 serps. Nice search relevancy and more...

Hurry..enjoy them while they are still there. Who knows what those youngster at Googleplex might change on the 2 lovely DCs while I'm in bed. Deploy new algos? who knows :-)

Good night and God bless...

bobothecat




msg:759848
 10:07 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is this thread going to go on forever?

Perhaps this should have it's own catagory in "The Google World"... maybe "Data Centers Watch" - that way reseller can officially have his own platform. :)

... and yes I know I don't have to read it... just find it amusing if nothing else.

Miop




msg:759849
 8:48 am on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

To drag it on even further, my 301's non-www site still has a PR of 3 across the board - a couple of months ago only the www.site was showing PR with it all but gone on the non-www site except for a couple of datacenters.
My non-www site is now not visible on any datacenter as far as I know, and yet the PR is still split.
Anyone think this might be addressed in the next PR update?

reseller




msg:759850
 12:26 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks

I got some hits today from

[google.sk...]

Its serps seems to differ than the rest of DCs, for my test keywords.

Would you be kind to check, and if possible mention the IP you are hitting that local google on.

Thanks..

Blade3




msg:759851
 1:19 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Reseller,

FYI, the SERPs of www.google.sk is different from the other DCs.

I had also checked these two DCs which show the same number of Search Results similar to www.google.sk
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104

My local IP is 72.14.203.104

reseller




msg:759852
 1:33 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Blade3

"Hi Reseller,

FYI, the SERPs of www.google.sk is different from the other DCs."

Thanks. I know, but can't figure which IP that www.google.sk is hitting.

"I had also checked these two DCs which show the same number of Search Results similar to www.google.sk
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104"

Maybe same number, but I see different serps ;-)

"My local IP is 72.14.203.104 "

WOW..lucky you. And hopefully you like what you see.

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