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Google Data Centers Watch 2006-04-15
catch2948

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Msg#: 33927 posted 1:35 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

For those of you who may be seeing strange results on the following DCs:

72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104

Do a site:mydomain.com check for your site & check the pages that are returned.

Do the serp titles & descriptions returned look close to being identical (eg. site-wide title and description tags maybe)?

I have an idea brewing :-)

[edited by: tedster at 7:39 pm (utc) on April 17, 2006]
[edit reason] start new thread [/edit]

 

reseller

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Msg#: 33927 posted 4:57 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Miop

"http://64.233.179.104/
[64.233.187.104...]

I like these - I hope they keep them. :) "

Hate to disappoint you, Miop. The quality of search of thos two DCs are not up to standards. I guess what will happen is that Matt Cutts shall phone from Boston Pubcon to the "yougsters" at the plex asking them to pump new data on the said two DCs asap :-)

reseller

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Msg#: 33927 posted 5:08 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks

Rumour has it that the folks at the plex are testing at present the patience of the great people of UK, including Dayo_UK and g1smd, by serving them on-off [72.14.207.104...] as default Google.

In fact [72.14.207.104...] is called at the plex The UK Testing Queen :-)

Miop

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 5:15 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

[64.233.179.104...]
[64.233.187.104...]

Are the only DC's which have my site figuring *anywhere*.

[72.14.207.104...]

is rubbish.

If that's the result, I'm giving up now!

g1smd

WebmasterWorld Senior Member g1smd us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 5:44 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am really not sure what [72.14.107.104...] is all about at all.

On the one hand, for some searches, all of the old Supplemental Results have completely gone.

On the other, a search that should return about 20 matches, now attempts to return 46000, none of which are really relevant. They include a massive amount of supplemental results, going back a long time.

Sometimes I can actually get to 1000 results by clicking through the SERPs, and other times I run out of SERPs after just 4, or 12, or 40, or 150, or 200 results.

Adding &num=100 and/or &filter=0 gives even more whacky results. For some searches, it looks like you have hit the "related" link instead of the normal search; but the results returned have been downgraded to just "vaguely related".

I have no idea what they are twiddling, and even less of a clue what they are trying to achieve on that particular DC.

petehall

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Msg#: 33927 posted 5:54 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

In fact [72.14.207.104...] is called at the plex The UK Testing Queen :-)

These results show little progression for up and coming sites.

Not good at all if you ask me.

petehall

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Msg#: 33927 posted 5:56 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

In fact on closer examination I would say the data on the above IP is incomplete.

Ellio

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 9:21 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Rseller,

This is not a direct critism but you are increasingly making factual statements like:

>>>In fact [72.14.207.104...] is called at the plex The UK Testing Queen :-) <<<

Do you have any inside knowledge of the plex or are you just in a good mood? Maybe a little confusing for newbies...

Ellio

reseller

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Msg#: 33927 posted 9:28 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ellio

"Do you have any inside knowledge of the plex or are you just in a good mood? Maybe a little confusing for newbies... "

I'm just in a good mood. Blame it on the many cups of Danish brand Cappuccino :-)

reseller

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Msg#: 33927 posted 9:49 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google Datacenters List

Hi Folks

Time for some serious talk ;-)

For the benefit of our kind new fellow members, here is the list of Google Datacenters (only those of IPs ending with .99 and .104)

[64.233.161.99...]
[64.233.161.104...]

[64.233.167.99...]
[64.233.167.104...]

[64.233.171.99...]
[64.233.171.104...]

[64.233.179.99...]
[64.233.179.104...]

[64.233.183.99...]
[64.233.183.104...]

[64.233.185.99...]
[64.233.185.104...]

[64.233.187.99...]
[64.233.187.104...]

[64.233.189.104...]

[66.102.7.99...]
[66.102.7.104...]

[66.102.9.99...]
[66.102.9.104...]

[66.102.11.99...]
[66.102.11.104...]

[66.249.85.99...]
[66.249.85.104...]

[66.249.87.99...]
[66.249.87.104...]

[66.249.93.99...]
[66.249.93.104...]

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

[72.14.207.99...]
[72.14.207.104...]

[216.239.37.99...]
[216.239.37.104...]

[216.239.39.99...]
[216.239.39.104...]

[216.239.51.99...]
[216.239.51.104...]

[216.239.53.99...]
[216.239.53.104...]

[216.239.57.99...]
[216.239.57.104...]

[216.239.59.99...]
[216.239.59.104...]

[216.239.63.99...]
[216.239.63.104...]

If you know of any other .99 and/or .104 datacenters, pls be kind to post them on this thread and I shall include them in the next updated list.

Thanks.

petehall

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 10:59 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

reseller you are more addicted to posting DCs than you are to cappuccino.

64.233.187.104 is back once more.

MLHmptn

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 5:02 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

HOLY FLUX! :>

Will the flux ever end!? Google! Just finish it would ya? Stop teasing us sandboxed webmasters with your 64.233.187.99 or 104 results! This update (or infrastructure upgrade) is LONG OVERDUE and our fancies are getting sick of being prodded with your fake result sets. Release, JUST DO IT!

capsmaster

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 5:24 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

64.233.187.104 looks pretty spammy in my sector, almost like half the filters have been turned off. Doubt those results will stay.

Ellio

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 8:41 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reseller,

Why do you only post *.99 & *.104 DC,s?

Ellio

petehall

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Msg#: 33927 posted 9:02 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

64.233.187.104 looks pretty spammy in my sector, almost like half the filters have been turned off. Doubt those results will stay.

I see some very clean sites to be honest.

Inclusion of new sites are a good thing - you can't expect Google to stay as it is. In fact the only way forward is to include new content.

Even if 'new' means 6 months+ old, lol. :)

reseller

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Msg#: 33927 posted 9:13 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ellio

"Reseller,

Why do you only post *.99 & *.104 DC,s?"

Just to make the list looks more simple to view, and maybe its just a tradition ;-)

Miop

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 9:13 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have two sites, one sandboxed, the other not and the sandboxed site is not appearing on 64.233.187.104 even though it is a similar site.

Freedom

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 10:05 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is anyone else losing 100s of pages from the index? No matter what DC I check, about 5 of my websites are missing 100s of pages each. One 450 page site is down to 85. Same story for the other 4 websites.

newwebster

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 10:11 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

g1smd:

I am really not sure what [72.14.107.104...] is all about at all.
On the one hand, for some searches, all of the old Supplemental Results have completely gone.

On the other, a search that should return about 20 matches, now attempts to return 46000, none of which are really relevant. They include a massive amount of supplemental results, going back a long time.

Sometimes I can actually get to 1000 results by clicking through the SERPs, and other times I run out of SERPs after just 4, or 12, or 40, or 150, or 200 results.

Adding &num=100 and/or &filter=0 gives even more whacky results. For some searches, it looks like you have hit the "related" link instead of the normal search; but the results returned have been downgraded to just "vaguely related".

I have no idea what they are twiddling, and even less of a clue what they are trying to achieve on that particular DC.

When clicking on the cache of what appears to be unrealated supplementals to the search phrase, I noticed the cache is indicating that the result has links pointing to it with part of the search phrase. This is the new statement that is in the cache:

"These terms only appear in links pointing to this page:"

It appears that they are playing around with Google bombing (on a minor scale) results

reseller

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Msg#: 33927 posted 10:34 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Freedom

"Is anyone else losing 100s of pages from the index? No matter what DC I check, about 5 of my websites are missing 100s of pages each. One 450 page site is down to 85. Same story for the other 4 websites."

Have you tried on this one too?

[216.239.37.104...]

300m

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 10:41 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

reseller,

I am not losing pages but earlier this month i lost a site completely. Howeve when i checked this morning, (might have been ove the past day or so as i am in boston) all of the pages that dropped have come back.

In your opinion do you think we are seeing anothe data refresh?

Freedom

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 10:55 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reseller,

I checked there and the page count still is down pretty low.

Any ideas if they will come back?

reseller

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 11:23 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

300m & Freedom

For a project I work on, I see rather huge difference of indexed pages on different DCs.

For example:

[66.249.93.104...] (2,890,000)

[216.239.37.104...] (4,470,000)

Therefore, I guess we shouldn't be paying much attention to number of indexed pages at present. Its changing all the time on different DCs.

Personally, I watch at present the tendecy to filter sites, treatmenet of duplicates, search relevancy etc..

IMO, the biggest challenge we are facing at the moment, as DCs watchers, is while the serps on the DCs are everfluxing all the time, how would we tell if an algo update happen?

reseller

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 12:57 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Have just noticed fresh cache on

[216.239.37.104...]

Anybody else noticing the same?

Thanks.

icedowl

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 1:33 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Have just noticed fresh cache on
[216.239.37.104...]

Anybody else noticing the same?

Yes. Some are dated as recent as April 17 and all of the pages that I checked have an April date.

petehall

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 1:42 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

reseller the cache is also fresh on 64.233.187.104.

I have a sneaky suspicion you don't like that DC...

Someone really should start a mini betting system to further enhance our DC watching pleasures. My money would be on 64.233.187.104.

Place your bets!

dataguy

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 2:18 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Freedom - It appears that we may be in the same boat as you. Big Daddy had been good to us, putting traffic at 10x what it was before Big Daddy started rolling out.

Last week traffic started declining. By yesterday it was down 40% from the norm and when I searched for listings using the site: command I realized that Google reported 40% fewer pages in the index. Overnight I lost another 100,000 pages, and at this rate we will be totally gone from Google by the end of the month.

I thought I always had a good relationship with Google, as I have communicated with them on numerous occasions, and I always received good feedback from them. Now I'm thinking about emailing them to make sure they are aware of the issue, but I would have to think that they already are. Has anyone else tried to email them?

RichTC

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 4:42 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

You could have a website about childrens sweets and have over 100,000 pages on it!

An authority site in an large sector could carry a significant amount of data.

We work on three or four sites that have in excess of 600,000 pages and they are not auto generated.

[edited by: tedster at 12:31 am (utc) on April 22, 2006]

natural number

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 6:19 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

64.233.187.104
64.233.189.104

Saw some changes for my KW here at these dc's.

Whitey

WebmasterWorld Senior Member whitey us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 6:50 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Here come the supplementals again and flux between the DC's.

[72.14.207.104...]
[66.249.93.104...]
[64.233.179.104...]

etc etc

Anything from 2.5k to 27k - down from 270k approx last week.

Is anyone experiencing the same?

Apart from us observing these gyrations, is there any inputs from Google on why or where we're headed and when?

dataguy

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 7:02 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

We have 2 competitors which are larger and receive more traffic than us, and about a million competitors which are smaller than us. We operate a How-To site which often gets the same content posted to multiple sites by the authors of the content.

During the BD rollout, our smaller competitors nearly all had supplemental problems and lost nearly all their listings. We thought this was deserved because, after all, we are larger and more popular.

What I'm seeing now is that our largest and most popular competitor is keeping his pages in Google, or actually increasing a bit, while indexed pages from our site is going down.

We all were told that Big Daddy had to do with dupe content. I think that Google has just turned up the threshold a little bit and we are loosing listings to our bigger competitors. Does this make sense to anyone else?

mibrahim

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33927 posted 7:05 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm noticing something strange about the way Googlebot is crawling the last couple of days. It is not only following my sitemaps, but is concentrating on the leaf pages, which in my website provide product information. I'm getting from 600-1000 crawls a day and the website is around 15000 pages. Less than ten hitting the upper pages, and rest are on leaves.

Also I'm in the same boat of losing pages from the index in the last couple of days.

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