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Pages dropping out of the index - in two months time it will be 0
Number of pages indexed drops from 112,000 to 270!
The_Tank




msg:731798
 8:07 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Has anyone else suffered from this? Has anyone else got their pages back? Did any one make changes to their site? If so what did you do?

I can't be the only one, I know some forum sites that have had similar experiences - but what about other sites?

 

eyezshine




msg:731799
 8:55 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

I got the same problem too. Don't have a clue what happened? One day the site was getting plenty of traffic and the next day all but 350 of it's pages simply disappeared from the index.

It is still getting spidered heavily by mozilla googlebot. It still gets traffic from google every day just not hardley as much, maybe 10% of before.

It doesn't seem to be banned because the pages it has left still rank the same as before?

I'm stumped? This is new to me.

dethfire




msg:731800
 9:00 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think it's google fixing itself. One of my forums lost 50k pages, however I notice the pages that are left are current and top 1-2 tier of the site. SO I think it's reindexing things from the top down.

eyezshine




msg:731801
 9:14 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

So you are saying they are starting over and rebuilding a new index? That's what mine is doing, only the first 1-2 levels are indexed and doing fine. The deeper pages were dropped.

idolw




msg:731802
 9:16 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

i noticed this on one of my sites today. SERPs were up after last change though.
Let's wait until Tuesday and have some Easter fun instead.

larryhatch




msg:731803
 9:25 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Tank: What sort of content was on the missing 112k pages? That might help explain things. -Larry

dramstore




msg:731804
 9:52 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Exactly the same here.

Was over 200K in the index, good traffic
Now down to under 300 pages, being spidered at a rate of 6000+/day for weeks but nothing appearing.

My pages each have unique content, generated pages by php but similar in that they have the same templates (6 different templates) and format.

There are some pages which I could understand if G decided were not unique enough, yet they are still there! - can't understand it.

My pages were mostly created in the last few months - is that true of anyone else who has this problem?

Sent google an email today - see what happens.

sandyk20




msg:731805
 1:42 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,
Read about this problem with google since last couple of weeks, I am hit by same today, for my 3 sites which had over 5,00,000 + pages each in googles index are showing less then 2000 pages in google index.

Morever, the traffic has gone down by almost 70% this really sucks.. The problem has hit in last 2 weeks reducing/deteriorating day by day.

Whats wrong exactly here?

tedster




msg:731806
 2:02 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Interesting post from catch2948 in the Data Centers Watch thread [webmasterworld.com]:

Don't know if anyone saw this overnight, but one of my "barometer" sites (www.cnn.com) lost 1.1 million indexed pages ... However, as of 15 minutes ago, they have gotten 500,000 of them back ... WOW!

security56




msg:731807
 2:22 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yikes CNN.com too damn and anyone dare say there is not something with google lately they must be on crack lol, We shall all seat and wait :)

catch2948




msg:731808
 4:15 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

tedster:

Thanks for the nod :-)

I will post more on my observations concerning CNN tomorrow morning ... That is turning out to be something in and of itself ... Some HUGE swings going on with pages counts ...

eyezshine




msg:731809
 8:28 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Maybe google is dumping pages that get very few clicks from the results to increase the space so they can index new better pages? That's funny!

djmick200




msg:731810
 8:48 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Maybe google is dumping pages that get very few clicks

Not so sure of that as of the 130 or so pages still indexed of the 1300 for my site some only get 5-10 page views a day and most of those dont come from G.

the pages that are left are current and top 1-2 tier of the site

Definately not the case at my end, the pages are randon, 26 directory folders with 50 pages in each, it's like a lucky dip.

Today I got an increase in my indexed pages, another 40, they are supplemental though.

I personally dont believe there is anything we can do. I submitted a thread on a simillar subject and in that I mentioned that on checking the errors in the sitemaps pages I seen 7 very old directories from 2002 on the errors list. Very strange as they have long gone. Like three years gone.

idolw




msg:731811
 8:50 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think it's google fixing itself. One of my forums lost 50k pages, however I notice the pages that are left are current and top 1-2 tier of the site. SO I think it's reindexing things from the top down.

all my main pages are shown by a site: search, too.
the number increased since yesterday by 5%. hopefully, they go up.

disspy




msg:731812
 8:58 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same here, 112k pages were in index last week, now 12k. There's nothing we can do! Even the concurrent index and traffic is going down. Alexa noticed this degradation too!

Obviously, Google is testing some new stuff, but I hope the Eastern is the dead line for this flop test :)Sunday's weekly indexing will show the final results and what will happen further. Hopefully, nothing bad for us, because there's no actual reason for it!

The_Tank




msg:731813
 9:25 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

larryhatch

The site is an ecommerce shop and all of the product details have been dropped. We still have categories indexed. We have taken great lengths to make sure content is unique and also stopped google indexing print pages etc. so that we are left with one url one page of content on the site.

Its a bit of an arse at the moment as we had only just moved our site to a dedicated server based on increased traffic.

It seems that anything 3 levels deep has been stripped.

we have a google site map too and it doesn't report any problems spidering the site. If you would like a can email the url?

(won't be around for the next couple of days because of Easter so apologies in advance if you don't get any replies for a while.)

The_Tank




msg:731814
 9:26 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

one last thing - its comforting to know I am not the only one!

dramstore




msg:731815
 9:42 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Mine appears to be related to the level as well, anything below 2 levels in my case seem to be the ones going - surely that can't be a factor thats being used though?

Armi




msg:731816
 12:20 pm on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same here: Lost vom 1million pages to 80k.

Jansen




msg:731817
 1:01 pm on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

My bilingual site (german and english) is rapidly losing the english part, while the german part is still (almost) completely indexed - strange...

Has anyone made similar observations regarding multiple languages?

mattg3




msg:731818
 1:23 pm on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

First the english went awol then the german, now both have increased slightly again, but in my forum I get visitors asking about anything but my subject. Also suddenly far east folk.. :\

We can hope they follow the christian holidays here. Good Friday sees the death of the old index and easter shows a nice resurrection.

catch2948




msg:731819
 2:07 pm on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am going to wait until tomorrow morning to post some of my findings concerning CNN, and the loss of indexed pages ... I looked at this morning's numbers, and seeing more of the same that has been happening this week ...

One thing is for sure ... I can't wait to see what comes out of the Sunday re-indexing myself ...

BTW ... Does anyone remember what was going on last year, at about this same time? Sure seems quite similar to me ... I'm one of those "hoarders", who saves every log archive from every site that I have ... I looked over some of the archives from last year, and the similarities are quite recognizable ...

gford




msg:731820
 11:41 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same problem here on many of my sites. Most down 90%+, classic example 23,000 page site down to 520. This is typical. - I also noticed much of whats left is

a) Cache summer 2005
b) Supplmental
c) canonical issues (non www. variety, etc)

I sure as heck this gets fix but I am glad to see this isn't an isolated issue. I was freaking out and immediately came to WebmasterWorld for comfort and solace.

indias next no1




msg:731821
 4:20 am on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

two of my sites :
one dropped from 13000 to just 1200 and another one from 16400 to 1210

most of the web pages on both the websites has been dropped from the google index, don't know the reason.

Google search results shows me the results which is one month old, yes , the new updated web page cache has reversed back to the old one.

Essex_boy




msg:731822
 4:11 pm on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Something isnt right and hasnt been with Google for a number of years, but this stupid.

One site of mine C10000 uniques a month now only has one page in the index, my other sites have moved to supplemental.

I really would like to know just what they are hoping to achieve, this is surreal.

Lorel




msg:731823
 4:44 pm on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Barring Google making temporary changes--if this persists look for hijackers or people stealing your content. Both can cause your traffic and keyword rank to drop and the indexing of your website to almost disappear and PR also.

You can find hijackers by looking at your inurl:yoursite.com command in Google and checking every listing manually to see if it redirects to your site and if so run a server header check on the link to see if it's a 302 redirect). If people are framing your site put a pop out of frames script on every page.

To find content thiefs you need to search for content from your pages in Google in quotes (1 sentence at a time).

dramstore




msg:731824
 5:03 pm on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

10,000+ pages indexed yesterday, not expecting any new pages to show in the index anytime soon.

My site should have about 130,000 now seems to have settled at around 250.

I think the problem is duplication, a few of my 3rd and 4th level pages are still in there and holding well (fresh cache), and I can now see that they all seem to have a little extra info in there - sometimes just 5 extra words than all the others.
I guess they are trying to cut down on the overall index size by attempting to kick out obvious trash, but are obviously not detecting what is trash very well.

IF a site sells widgets and uses urls such as widgets.com/usa/sc/greenville - the difference in the pages in this section will only be maybe a small description, a photo and a price - but surely that does not make it junk and not worth including?

eyezshine




msg:731825
 10:57 pm on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is the old googlebot still crawling? Or is the new mozilla 5.0 the only bot crawling now? Is mozilla 5.0 bot the new big daddy bot?

Does anyone know anything about the mozilla 5.0 bot?

willie50




msg:731826
 11:08 pm on Apr 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Pages dropping out of the index - in two months time it will be 0"

I am getting closer to the "0"

Hi I have 6 sites, of a site with 300 pages only 68 indexed, a site with 600+ pages only 4 indexed, a site with 1500 pages only 14 indexed, etc. etc. googlebot still crawling all my sites, and all my pages daily, (what for?)

I can see the end for me very near, good luck to all with Google results

Martin Galloway




msg:731827
 2:41 am on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have four sites, all doing well in the rankings considering we are only 3 months old. Last week we had 58 pages of our Scotland site listed on Google... I awoke on Easter morning to find only the index page. All four sites are affected, it literally happened overnight.

We lost our #1 ranking for our search phrase on MSN at the same time, now we don't even show up at all.

The traffic has plummeted 80% since the 12th April.

It's a bad way to treat the folks who make your business. Without websites Google would not exist.
The sites are photography and information based with unique content that I wrote myself.

Martin.

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