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Google PR Update - some unexpectedly high/low PR is being reported
Aimee




msg:772671
 3:39 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just to see my site has a PR 7 now, yesterday is only 2.

PR update start?

 

michael4




msg:772672
 6:59 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

yup, seems more like a temp flux, couple of my site's inner pages show a PR of 4 (increased from 0) and the inner pages still show 2 as before.

more views on this wud be nice...

-michael

twist




msg:772673
 7:08 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I saw the thread and went and checked. All my inner pages were 0 because I did a 301 that seemed to make all my PR disappear about 9 months ago. Now inner pages are ranking from 2-5, but my main pages are still the same, some even lower.

idolw




msg:772674
 7:15 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

yeah, new pages with just one link get higher PR than old established ones.
on my site, pages that have links from PR4 get PR5 now.
funny!

Nikke




msg:772675
 7:16 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

A couple of rather new sites, set up in December got their first PR, and I do see changes in a lot of places.

I'm also struggeling with a next-to-nill PR on a site where I changed the domain in September. I have 301s in place for .nu to .se, and the main page (that actually have quite a lot of good incoming links) seem to be stuck at the initial PR2.

I hope it's still rolling out though and that more changes are to come.

ariane




msg:772676
 6:40 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Dear friends of webmasterworld ,I read daily the forum but today I decided to join because just show in several DC's a PR update ,that will bring I believe many members of the 2 threads (big daddy and DC watch)and me as well in a great agony because I believe now starts the big update.

Aimee




msg:772677
 7:18 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

The above site I mentioned only phomeage has PR value, inner pages still zero.

but another site, homepage PR is 2, but some inner pages has PR 4, all of the two sites are lanuched about half a year.

Aimee




msg:772678
 7:25 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

inner pages' PR higher then homepage's PR happen on a really new site.

another site has a 301 redirect from an old site.

Marcia




msg:772679
 7:42 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>inner pages' PR higher then homepage's PR happen on a really new site.

Have people come up with any reasons or theories why this would be happening?

reseller




msg:772680
 7:46 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks

Would you be kind to mention the IP of your default Google or the datacenters where you see PR update?

Thanks.

followgreg




msg:772681
 7:51 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yep agreed with our friend reseller...what is the IP.

As far as I'm concerned I see no PR change for 6 months but I suspect my toolbar being a little flaky.

BTW Marcia>> that is a very good question, I had a few theories in the past but very little ground and experience to elaborate - I saw sites with similar 'issues' doing very well after the sandbox effect disapeared.

Dayo_UK




msg:772682
 7:59 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks like it was the <rk> figures - well for me it was.

My PR has returned from 0 :) to a 5 on my main site with Canonical problems.

Canonical problems still remain but touch wood the new PR may help solve these issues?

Nikke




msg:772683
 8:06 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

theories

I've got one, and it's a bit embarrasing, since I only see this happening on a site where I have done a 301 from another tld, and actually, as it turns out done it badly.

I just dicovered that a request for
www.mydomain.nu/subdirectory/ gets redirected to www.mydomain.se/ instead of going to the right place:
www.mydomain.se/subdirectory/

Well... sigh.

Oh, and the update isn't rolling for me. I see the new PR for my sites on just about every DC since yesterday.

Nikke




msg:772684
 8:19 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

<rk>

Not quite the ones I saw... but almost. I'm still hoping for one domain though.

Dayo_UK




msg:772685
 8:22 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>Not quite the ones I saw... but almost.

Yay - I should say almost aswell really. EG. Webmasterworld was predicted a PR8 - people are posting the export as about the same time these figures disappeared.

Jesse_Smith




msg:772686
 8:24 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

It looks like only sites that had a PR 0 are geting an update!!!!!

Aimee




msg:772687
 8:25 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Would you be kind to mention the IP of your default Google or the datacenters where you see PR update?

My default is 72.14.20.3.104

Dayo_UK




msg:772688
 8:28 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>It looks like only sites that had a PR 0 are geting an update!

Hmmz

Something strange is going on. Some pages have PR updated on all DCs - while others are on about 4/5ths.

wyldfyre101




msg:772689
 8:33 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Changing prs on Google could probably be the effect of Big Daddy switchover upgrade. Matt Cutts said it will happen by this week..

gaman




msg:772690
 8:45 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

My PR has gone from 0 to 6 today. I also noticed this new value is propagating across the datacenters.

Nikke




msg:772691
 9:01 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

It looks like only sites that had a PR 0 are geting an update!

That might be it actually.

I have a PR7 that has lost almost all of it's incoming links since the last update. It shouldn't be worth more than PR4 or PR5 today, but still holds it PR7.

phantombookman




msg:772692
 9:23 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

All my old sites are the same but a three week old one has gone PR4

glitterball




msg:772693
 9:33 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

It looks like only sites that had a PR 0 are geting an update!

Yeah, looks that way as far as my sites are concerned.

Nikke




msg:772694
 10:16 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

So. More a PR insertion than an update then...

Does anyone have a page that got lower PR?

sit2510




msg:772695
 10:50 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>> All my old sites are the same but a three week old one has gone PR4

I see quite a similar situation. My new sites, active on or before 10 Mar 06, begin to have PR shown in many DC this time and those active on or after 16 Mar 06 still show PR0. The ones with new PR are at PR4, but I doubt that these PR4 would be accurate as honestly they should be at PR2-3 only.

articlemaster




msg:772696
 10:55 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just last night, my site was PRZero, nada.. then about 2 hours ago, links began to show up, about 86 of them which gave my site an automatic PR4.. but right now, the links have gone away and my site is back to PR0. What the? is going on..

selomelo




msg:772697
 10:57 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

IMHO, this is a full PR update for both old and new sites alike. Until yesterday, I saw three sets of PRs accross different DCs: pre-Sept, post-Sept, and current. As of today, all DCs show the new PR (a +2 as contrasted to PR before September, and a +1 as contrasted to PR after September).

selomelo




msg:772698
 11:09 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

By the way, I just observed a new backlink update propogating accross the DCs. This backlink update is not the same as that accompanied the initial PR update of 18th Feb. (for my site: 5 before Sept; 18 after Sept; 36 after Feb; and now 41)

For example, these DCs show new backlinks:
[66.249.93.104...]
[216.239.37.104...]
[64.233.161.104...]

ska_demon




msg:772699
 11:09 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have 1 month old site I built for a friend. it has 16 pages ALL pr5. Last update it was too late to get pr but now......

why cant i do this with my own sites?

Ska

sit2510




msg:772700
 11:13 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>inner pages' PR higher then homepage's PR happen on a really new site.
Have people come up with any reasons or theories why this would be happening?

-------------------

Incomplete PR iteration of the page/site for that cycle and PR was exported prematurely for that round of PR update. It would take one more update before you'll see the right and sensible PR for that page or site. This is only reasoning, not theories. I saw this happening quite a few times especially to, but not necessarily to, the new sites in the past.

[edited by: sit2510 at 11:16 am (utc) on April 5, 2006]

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