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Google PR Update - some unexpectedly high/low PR is being reported
Aimee




msg:772671
 3:39 am on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just to see my site has a PR 7 now, yesterday is only 2.

PR update start?

 

McClaw




msg:772761
 9:29 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have just noticed that my site's PR is also looking weird

The site has most internal pages Toolbar PR 4 but the default page is sitting at Toolbar PR 2.

I dont really mind this, as the internal pages are the important ones, the main page is just a way of getting to these pages, and if the user hits the internal pages first, its a bonus, cause it saves them a click. :)

The site has been up for about 2 months and only recently got PR assigned.

The <RK> of the site said 5 last time I checked.

Go Google! :D:D

I never had a site gain PR that quickly :eek:

Oliver Henniges




msg:772762
 9:34 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

No changes over here, neither in the serps for my major keywords, nor for TBPR. ping toolbarqueries returns 66.249.93.99. All I see is goolge now advertisig for its toolbar on the main page. How new is this?

McClaw




msg:772763
 9:42 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

ping toolbarqueries shows 66.249.85.104

Liane




msg:772764
 10:01 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

So, many of us agree that there is something "off" about this PR update ... or at least there is something strange about what we are being shown.

I am seeing little change in the SERPS, so I am guessing that somehow whatever we are seeing is just "there". Not sure what affect (if any) it has overall.

My guess is that the landscape of PR is about to change drastically! It will be interesting to see what takes place next. More interesting will be to see how long it takes the gang at the plex to sort it out.

grelmar




msg:772765
 11:06 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ok, just checked again...

The 4 year old site:
Went from 4 to 5 and is holding

8 Month old site:
3 to 3 and holding

1.5 month old site:
Went from 0 to 6 and now back down to 0 this morning.

Guess I shoulda put that pr6 up for sale on EBay with a 1 hour time limit.

Knew there was something fishy.

I'm guessing:
Maybe their trying to get rid of the "Sandbox" to freshen up the SERPS a little, but botched the algo on the first try? Now their going back to something older, and it'll take a few days to work the kinks out?

Who knows. It's Google... Land of the perpetual live Beta.

andrewshim




msg:772766
 11:22 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I wish I could say my PR2 suddenly went up to PR6 but it's still at PR2. It would help to ease the "ouch!" of dropping to page 3 in my Yahoo! serps!

Oh Google, Oh Google,
My traffic trickles,
Please Google, Please Google,
Gimme Greeeeeeen Pixels! ;P

selomelo




msg:772767
 11:51 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

For the sites that shows a sharp increase in PR, say 0 to 6, I can say that it may be a bug.

Last year, I registered a brand new domain name. It had a pr6 even without being launched. And it lasted for a while (over 2 months).

I have another domain name, and it recently show a PR5. The strange thing is that I just added a home page, placed a 301 redirect to www version from the start. But www.mydomain.com shows a pr0, while mydomain.com shows a pr5 with some nonexistent backlinks! And I am sure that it will not last.

cleanup




msg:772768
 11:53 am on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google just can't get it right can they?..

Did the 301 four months ago.
Some pages since came back in rankings.
In the index all pages are still listed as non-www. Why? I have no idea when there is the 310 redirect to www.

And now today all internal pages are PR0!

WOW! awesome..

What the %$!K! is up with Google now?

Eazygoin




msg:772769
 12:04 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Uhmmm...no knowing where this is going, but it is going to take time, as the new infrastructure has to be tweaked I guess.

What I am able to comment on, is that reciprocal links seem to have been removed from the link: command, inner pages have increased PR, traffic has gone up, new sites seem to be getting, and then in some cases, losing, high PR.

Supplemental issues continue, as it seems are canonical, from comments on here.

So I guess it ain't done with yet, and probably will be some time before it is, if ever :-)

Dayo_UK




msg:772770
 12:05 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>For the sites that shows a sharp increase in PR, say 0 to 6, I can say that it may be a bug.

>>>Last year, I registered a brand new domain name. It had a pr6 even without being launched. And it lasted for a while (over 2 months).

It was usually common enough for new sites to get a high PR of say 5/6 on the first update and then for the site to go down to a 4 after a while once it became more established.

Still feel that Google are trying to merge the Mozilla Googlebot index with the old index or it is a slow changeover or something.

Must be more changes - esp Serp changes - and maybe even a Canonical fix one day? (Falls of chair)

So far Google have moved from Normal Googlebot to Mozilla Googlebot indexing with little serp changes (apart from side effect errors) and an inconsistent PR update.

JuniorOptimizer




msg:772771
 12:14 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

At what point does constantly shuffling SERPS = bad results?

trinorthlighting




msg:772772
 1:29 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

If your inner pages have more pr, check the variants you might have for your homepage.

Example:

www.mysite.com
www.mysite.com/index.php?main_page=index

etc....

Then make it neat using a 301 when you find the one with the most page rank.

Steph_R




msg:772773
 5:05 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone notice their internal pages went from PR4 or PR5 to PR0?

cleanup




msg:772774
 5:20 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Anyone notice their internal pages went from PR4 or PR5 to PR0? "

Yep. Really made my day today I can tell you! :(

Canonical related/caused, by the way.

jrs_66




msg:772775
 5:22 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm cleaning up with link exchanges! My newn found second and third level page PR is looking pretty attractive to link exchange partners. I'm 5 for 5 in requests made in the past 24 hours, 3 PR 5's and 2 PR 4's. Thank you google!

cleanup




msg:772776
 5:26 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

jrs_66, cleaning up...that's funny.

I have had just the reverse as all my links pages are suddenly PR0 I have had a few people asking already today to "move their links" to pages with better PR....

bobmark




msg:772777
 5:39 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Anyone notice their internal pages went from PR4 or PR5 to PR0? "

Me too.

In fact, on the "reseller friendly" dc's listed on the update thread I have ZERO internal pages in the index as far as a "site" seacrh goes.

Amazing what the Google brain trust can do when they put their minds to it :)

ariane




msg:772778
 5:59 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Anyone notice their internal pages went from PR4 or PR5 to PR0? "
same boat here ,but at several DC,s some of those PR0 pages come back in places 1-3 for 2 word seraches in 130,000,000 results
funny init?

Dayo_UK




msg:772779
 6:00 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>"Anyone notice their internal pages went from PR4 or PR5 to PR0? "

I think that was because the PR export was done at the same time these pages were only listed in the supplemental index.

Steph_R




msg:772780
 6:16 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

"I think that was because the PR export was done at the same time these pages were only listed in the supplemental index."

Dayo_UK - I think you are right...the site to which I am referring *was* in supplemental hell until a week or so ago. Dayo_UK, if you had to guess, do you think those internal pages will get their PR back?

Dayo_UK




msg:772781
 6:20 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I dont think there is any doubt that they will - as long as the site does not have crawling problems.

But Google need to sort out what they are doing at the moment and let the Mozilla Googlebot index take over from the old index IMO.

Steph_R




msg:772782
 6:23 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thank you for the quick reply.

bobmark




msg:772783
 6:49 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Dayo_UK, I think you're right about the supplemental - not in index/PR0 thing.

Very hard to see this as part of a planned process as opposed to Google trying to fix one unanticpated problem after another.

idolw




msg:772784
 9:35 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

hey, folks!
what do you say about this:
[wikipedia.org...]
was it always PR0?

walkman




msg:772785
 9:39 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ok,
I thought I was the only one with zero PR for inside pages. My main PR should've increased though too, since the last update I have gotten, at least, a solid Pr 5 fron a .edu, an article with a live link from PC World, one from Wash Post and a solid PR7 link.

annej




msg:772786
 9:52 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I hope the PR will still hop around a bit. I just got my worse PR ever for an important page. What was once a 7 went down to 6 for some time then last fall went to 5 and now it's a 4. I know I didn't lose that many links.

ebound




msg:772787
 9:59 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

[en.wikipedia.org...] Wikipedia is still PR9

steveb




msg:772788
 10:39 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

[wikipedia.org...] PR8

speda1




msg:772789
 12:05 am on Apr 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks like there has been a backlink update as well.

Liane




msg:772790
 12:24 am on Apr 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks like there has been a backlink update as well.

I think this is just part of the ever changing data center flux. The back links are up and down like a toilet seat these days. Check again tomorrow and then again the next day and the backlinks will be different again.

Aimee




msg:772791
 12:59 am on Apr 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

happy, still has PR 7 today ;-)

But this morning I find a old site's PR get down, from 8 to 7.

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