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How much revenue does Google lose from the Sandbox effect?
Pages sandboxed do not bring in revenue.
panther45




msg:749728
 12:36 am on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

In the past 6 - 8 months I have been reading webmaster site after webmaster site, blog after blog on the sandbox effect. People with anything from a few pages on their site to sites with over 100,000 pages not appearing in Google. For every one complaint their must be ten that don't complain. Googles sandbox must effect millions of pages. That is an awful lot of pages that aren't earning revenue for Google, over a six to nine month period, and from what I read all the pages still eventually make it into Google. For no end benefit at all. Further to that they are mainly high volume keywords that are in the sandbox which further effects their revenue. If I was an investor I would not be happy with Google.

 

tedster




msg:749729
 1:21 am on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see it very differently -- and as a developer, I hate having that new site filter thing going on, whatever you call it. By raising the bar a lot higher for new sites, Google effectively stopped a big bunch of simplistic, autogenerated button pushing spam from affecting their search results.

Sure it hurts when you're trying to get a new site to "kick in" -- but from a Google viewpoint it's a long-term win,because it helps to preserve their core competence. I have not seen any evidence that GOOG revenues are off because of it, either.

I would think investors would be delighted to see such long-term protection against quality erosion.

panther45




msg:749730
 1:30 am on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

But if all those sites still get through what is the point of the sandbox?

hutcheson




msg:749731
 2:08 am on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Pages sandboxed simply allow revenue to flow from somewhere else to Google. Surfing demand is for all practical purposes inelastic (compared to supply of doorway/advertising sites.)

If YOUR site is sandboxed, there are still ten sites in the top ten search results -- and someone else is serving the advertisements you'd like to be paid for. Google isn't harmed.

caspita




msg:749732
 2:15 am on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

... and if in the top 10 (even top 3), none of the pages catch the user's attention, where do you think the user is going to click? you are right!, rigth Ads which has no sandbox at all!, pure revenue LOL!

crobb305




msg:749733
 4:30 am on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Where your site is not listed (because of the sandbox), another site is. What makes you think that they lose revenue just because a site is sandboxed? That assumption makes absolutely no sense. If your site isn't listed, that doesn't mean the searches return zero results.

I have a site that is sandboxed, but when I search for the competitive terms for which I optimize my pages, thousands of results are returned. And, many of those are running adsense. Furthermore, many of us who have "sandboxed" sites may also be using adwords. That means lots and lots of money for G.

RichTC




msg:749734
 12:16 pm on Apr 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Daft OP if you ask me

Google GAINS from a sandbox because new sites HAVE to buy adwords to get traffic - its that simple.

The longer the sandbox the more they make.

Of course they do have to watch they dont turn the sandbox knob to far otherwise they are left with stale serps without any new site content.

Currently imo the sandbox is about as long as it can be. The serps already verge of suffering from being stale as they have pushed this one factor to the edge already, anymore and the results are next to useless.

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