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Seeing internal pages go PR zero. What's going on?
Rollo




msg:725956
 10:11 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have a few large portals and I've noticed that a a handful of internal pages are coming up PR0 in google and falling out of the rankings, but I cannot figure out why. Some other went PR 0, then got their PR back.

The only reasosn I can think of are:

1) Google glitch... the pages "caught a cold"

2) They turned up the nobs on dupe content way too tight to where you can't even "quote" other sites/content.

3) There is some sort of over-optimization pentaly (i.e. too high % of keywords or overuse of similar phrases in metatags and <h1> tags etc.

Have any of you got your internal pages zapped? When? What do you think happened?

 

jeremy goodrich




msg:725957
 10:40 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

If Google can't crawl pages, they will fall out. For example: there have been issues where the encoding of an ampersand caused a whole list of pages to drop, then when we noticed that google couldn't fetch the pages by analyzing the client log files, we fixed the encoding issue & Google was able to recrawl them.

First place I always look for a ranking issue, is with the crawl pattern & the last http response code that Googlebot (or Slurp, etc) received when making a call for that particular page.

Second, I start looking to see if any links pointing to the page were removed.

hth.

deanril




msg:725958
 11:27 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes most of my current internal pages are Zapped, as you say. On two of my sites. I'm a bit worried, but will wait a bit before I act.

I do have high Keyword density aswell on these.

deluxcougar




msg:725959
 11:54 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing the same thing on some of my smaller sites. Usually this is just a short term glitch. I'll wait a few days before panicing.

Have you seen any patterns in which pages were bumped down?

Rollo




msg:725960
 3:18 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, these pages had PR, which indicates that they can and have been crawled, then went to zero. Can't really tell why. Overall the site continues to perform better and better. Its odd becuase another site has dozens of PR7 pages but lost 90% of its Google traffic back in early Feb.

Has anyone had pages with PR go PR0 then after a change (links removed, more content added, dupe content removed, etc.) have the PR come back? What did you do... how long did it take?

deanril




msg:725961
 3:26 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ive had pages loose pr, leave index then come back, a few times. It seems to be the norm, every 4 or more months.

But I didnt monitor my pages over the weekend, but they have pr, but were out of index, they may have lost pr during weekend.

Thing that freaked me was it was 2 of my sites, pages are kinda similar, but no where near exact. Like they list the same products, but in a different way, so thought something tripped there.

But at home now and pages are back, but maybe I'm hitting different index at home vs. work.

Kirby




msg:725962
 3:30 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

the pages I lost were dupes, outside of title and <h> tags.

xalex




msg:725963
 3:58 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same here. I have seen lot of weird things lately.

In one site hompage pr went from 3-4 while internal from 4-0

Another site went internal 6-5.

Interesting. Something must have happened in the last update.

deanril




msg:725964
 5:07 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well, I must have hit the datacenter again, cause most of my internals are gone, from both sites currently.

Strange, this is probably a datacenter that will roll out to all.

If that happens I predict I will see my toolbar pr go aswell eventually. Currently its holding. Front page is doing just fine in the datacenter that has the internal page problem.

I have seen this before, only opposit. My Home page was gone from serps(pr too), but internals were all there and had pr.

This like a reverse effect, when this has happened in the past it only effected one of my sites, not two. In addition my Home page came back to full ranking and pr within a week.

This happening to 2 of my sites gives me concern, because the content is similar. Will have to see how this pans out.....

This datacenter is one that Im out, my internal pages are gone: [64.233.171.104...]

And this one Im currently stable all internals are still in the index: [216.239.63.104...]

Ruben




msg:725965
 10:18 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

My site was very new and went from pr0 to pr5. If I now look at the pr it went from 5 to 0 on all pages. Is this a short term effect, because the page is new or?

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