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Google Patent Conspiracy Theory
giga




msg:711451
 4:17 am on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I was just kind of thinking to myself, ...and i'm a paranoid person in general..possibly irratinally so, but for fun i was thinking. What if Google with all it's PHD guys had a pow wow and decided on a disinformation campaign to keep seo guys like us guessing for years. I think the best way to pull this off is to have alittle brainstorming session and put together a list of rediculous ideas of things they could possibly or theoretically give weight to in their scoring system, but in all reality have gone a completely different direction... then submit this faulty patent, and whisper in a few stooges ears about the TRUTH being in these papers....

I feel like i'm on the x-files with this wacky thought...but you never know what people will do to protect the one element that the entire company hinges on (its secret algo).

 

kaled




msg:711452
 11:46 am on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

That's not paranoia - it's common sense...

It's well known that patenting an idea has one BIG downside - its let's your competitors know what you're doing. In the case of search technology, it also lets the enemy (i.e. SEOs) know what you're doing.

Naturally, it follows that there is going to be a great deal of misinformation in the patents to throw people off the scent. What I find baffling is that so many people seem to believe everything they read or hear without any sort of critical analysis.

Kaled.

colin_h




msg:711453
 11:49 am on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

There's this guy and every day he sits in his car outside of my house. He has a clipboard and always looks shifty when I walk by. So today, thanks to reading your post, I strode up to him and gave him a cup of tea and a packet of jammy dodgers. I tapped my finger on my nose and said "I've cracked it y'know", "The secret algo ... I've got it and I'm going to sell my secret to the press for ... 10 million dollars". Well, I obviously worried him and he soon drove away to report his findings to Google HQ. All that was left was a full cup of tea and an empty jammy D wrapper ... He just left them of the pavement and scarpered.

All the Best

Col :-)

Wizard




msg:711454
 12:18 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

to have alittle brainstorming session and put together a list of rediculous ideas of things they could possibly or theoretically give weight to in their scoring system, but in all reality have gone a completely different direction

Of course it's what they did. I guess they were very amused reading our discussions about how to manipulate their algo and intended to give us more things to think about :)

And in reality, I guess they use much simpler ideas to rank pages. Having hundreds of complicated ranking factors is not brilliant enough for them.

colin_h




msg:711455
 2:54 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've scanned these forums for 9 months now and I've yet to see anyone who actually knows anything about the inner workings of the Google algo for sure. Of course there is plenty of supposition and fake analysis, but it's getting us absolutely nowhere fast.

Webmasterworld is really just a bunch of web users who feel pressured by Google, Yahoo and the other big names and they want someone who will understand them and listen. It's basically a group session dressed up as technical genius forum.

Google are only bothered about the black hats who have taken over the serps, not about a few webmasters who want to be top of the "blue widget" listings. So don't lose any sleep over idea's of Big Brother's manipulation ... enjoy it, it's the only reality we've got ... Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha(Sinister Laugh).

Love and Kisses

Col :-)

afterburner




msg:711456
 2:59 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I sort of agree with Giga. And anything that was written in the Patent can be changed easily by Google.

Rani




msg:711457
 3:19 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google are only bothered about the black hats who have taken over the serps

Google are more bothered about MSN and Alta Vista breathing down their necks.This is the real battleground
and we can sit back,watch and find the loopholes.

europeforvisitors




msg:711458
 4:57 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'd imagine that the patents are legitimate. However, that doesn't mean everything in the patents is being used, or that only things mentioned in the patents are being used.

frup




msg:711459
 5:01 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

At the conference in New Orleans a Google engineer said as much. They patent as much as they can, whatever they can think of, to give themselves a strong position in case of a patent dispute, but keep the good stuff secret.

giga




msg:711460
 6:47 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

What about patenting techniques which they have NO intention of ever utilizing in order to throw off seo tactics and visible compeditors? I would do it...

I believe it is the PATENT which is the driving force of credibility behind this grand lie...

I'll go back to wearing my tin foil hat to keep out the evil goverment brain waves as well now LOL!...

Kufu




msg:711461
 9:09 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google are more bothered about MSN and Alta Vista breathing down their necks.

Did I miss something? Sarcasm?

Rani




msg:711462
 6:06 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

[searchenginewatch.com...]

colin_h




msg:711463
 6:10 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just a little addition to the paranoia ...

... What if the majority of the posts on WebmasterWorld are just from the dis-information department at Google, that would explain why there's always someone willing to jump in and defend Google when the pressure gets turned up.

oooooooooooh {another sniff of NO2 I think)

Tastatura




msg:711464
 6:38 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

I don’t know about Google algo, but I heard patent attorney say something along the lines of : patents are not really to secure what you want to do, but prohibit others from doing that (whatever applicable ‘that’ is). Common advice coming from patent attorneys is to patent everything, even semi relevant, for the reasons stated above, as well as for ‘you never know’ future. (then legal department comes in and basically says not to write anything down, and to use verbal communication when ever possible). Patent language is almost as an art…I read competitors patent and basically concluded that we can’t do certain thing, but then have a patent attorney read it and he said that we could ( and it was all ‘hidden’ in basically irrelevant (to me) wording). Go figure…

Solutions




msg:711465
 7:09 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Just Because You're Paranoid, Don't Mean They're Not After You..."

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