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Google Datacenters Watch 2006-02-06
Observations, Analysis and Remarks
speedshopping

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Msg#: 33045 posted 10:07 am on Feb 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

has anyone noticed when on Big Daddy DC you do a site: command on your site it brings back a number.

Ok now refresh countless times and you will notice it flips to another number.

My site is currently switching between 850 pages and 420,000!

Any ideas anyone?

[edited by: tedster at 10:41 pm (utc) on Feb. 6, 2006]

 

Hissingsid

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Msg#: 33045 posted 7:47 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

Where have all the fresh tags gone on BD?

SSSid

g1smd

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Msg#: 33045 posted 8:10 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

In the last year or more, Fresh tags have a habit of disappearing for a few hours every few days, and for a few days once per month...

Blade3

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Msg#: 33045 posted 6:14 am on Feb 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

Any new observations on BD?

I am very much confused about the results on different google domains.

The same IP 64.233.179.104 is appearing at google.com and .ca But there is large variation in positions. Can anyone comment on this please?

ulysee

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Msg#: 33045 posted 11:32 am on Feb 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

So what's with all the spam, redirects, keyword spamming, automatic download installers and grey bared 1 page sites floating at the top of serps in Google?.

I see this sometimes on the first page of results but mostly every oher site from 20 - 100 and beyond is blackhat for many searches.

BillyS

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Msg#: 33045 posted 2:00 pm on Feb 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm showing around 1,040 pages on non-BD centers right now (nothing showing as supplemental - the site has 1,080 pages). I took a big dip overnight on BD - now down to around 375 from around 450. Of the 375, roughly 110 are supplement (these pages have not existed for close to a year).

I think the loss of pages is a good sign, I'd been stuck at 450 for about 10 days or so. Google keeps spidering away at the site (Mozilla Googlbot and Googlebot 2.1).

colin_h



 
Msg#: 33045 posted 6:15 pm on Feb 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can see google feeds to the likes of aol.co.uk being pure big daddy now.

Brad Bristol

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Msg#: 33045 posted 7:03 pm on Feb 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

block google cookies and refresh the SERPs page, keep an eye on the number of results returned and the SERP.

burcot

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Msg#: 33045 posted 9:33 pm on Feb 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

"the site has 1,080 pages"

BillyS..... my site has 1,080 pages.
Guess what - aol is showing 1,080 pages for the site:mydomain search. Hoooray! (G still showing 14,000)

5,000,000 pages returned for my keyword (G still showing 44,000,000)

Hope this is indicative of BD spreading at last

phish

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Msg#: 33045 posted 9:53 pm on Feb 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

im seeing toolbar pr updated on 64.233.179.104
anybody else?

robzilla

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Msg#: 33045 posted 10:15 pm on Feb 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

>> "im seeing toolbar pr updated on 64.233.179.104
>> anybody else?"

Nope - don't see any changes on that DC.

ansible

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Msg#: 33045 posted 11:03 pm on Feb 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

phish,
how are you going about checking that? changing the windows hosts file for toolbar.google.com?

phish

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Msg#: 33045 posted 12:29 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

yeah...thing is...I watch a few of my sites daily, and I know what they are. They have changed for me. That's why I'm kinda suprised nobody else is seeing it

aldo

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Msg#: 33045 posted 8:30 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

aol.uk and aol.de showing BD serps

taps

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Msg#: 33045 posted 9:51 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can see some movement concerning my site. For a very competitive two keyword phrase my site went up to #4 from #6 on Big Daddy. On non BD DCs it stays on #3.

My local Google is switching constantly between BD and non BD for one week.

Maybe it is just some flux.

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 33045 posted 10:25 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

phish

Looks like a PR rollback rather than an update to me.

PR Rollback hitting a lot of DCs at the moment.

Still think that PR is not behaving correctly at the moment and not sure what is used on BD.

BD is on 14 of the 25 C-Classes that are shown on a well-known tool at the moment - cant wait until this is fully deployed and the new infastructure starts to work.

BTW Reseller - where are you?

ScottD

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Msg#: 33045 posted 10:44 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've seen a number of ranking changes in our sites and the page rank query discussion in this forum here [webmasterworld.com] suggest PR changes for two sites too. None of this makes me happy so far, and seems unrelated to BD

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 33045 posted 10:48 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, that thread does seem to indicate a possible PR change - however, I have not seen any of those figures that those queries suggest live on a DC.

The DCs which are showing different PR to me are definetly old - no doubt about it.

curlykarl

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Msg#: 33045 posted 2:23 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm also seeing BD on Aol UK, and it is making me very happy :)

Frederic1

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Msg#: 33045 posted 2:49 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google please update PR ... 4 months we're waiting for the update :'(

ScottD

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Msg#: 33045 posted 3:14 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

On the seo chat future PR tool, I see a new PR in the toolbar reading, but on the actual toobar I have no change. Curiouser and curiouser.

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 33045 posted 3:15 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

On that tool I only see old PR. A good test is to see Mattcutts site - his site was a PR0 and went to a PR5 on the last update.

That tool shows some DC reverting back to 0 - deffo old PR.

idolw

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Msg#: 33045 posted 3:17 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

you using coop schemes, curlykarl?

texasville

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Msg#: 33045 posted 3:40 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is no pr update. There have been numerous threads on ww since the bd thing started. There seems to be a flux back and forth between old pr and the most recent pr. Perhaps after bd stabilizes we will see an update. Seems to be what MC is saying.

kamikaze Optimizer

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Msg#: 33045 posted 7:14 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have said this before and at one point it looks as if Big Daddy had fixed this, but it is back:

What I have been noticing is far too much weight being given to .co.uk and .ca sites in the USA serps.
So a common search would produce:
keyword.com (valuable site)
keyword.co.uk (Of no value in the USA)
keyword.ca (Of no value in the USA)

I would expect this on google.co.uk and google.ca, but not here.

It is making a mess of the serps with valuable sites that were in the top five results dropping down the page.

curlykarl

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Msg#: 33045 posted 7:46 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

you using coop schemes

Nope.

Now I'm at home AOL UK has gone back to the old results

RichTC

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Msg#: 33045 posted 11:34 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

You are right about AOL its reverted back.

Funny, just when i was thinking AOLs results were very good - gawd knows what they are doing with the results at the plex now.

Jordo needs a drink

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Msg#: 33045 posted 1:46 am on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

How many Big Daddy centers are there now?

idolw

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Msg#: 33045 posted 7:17 am on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

How many Big Daddy centers are there now?

better as few as possible. their SERPs still require some work.

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 33045 posted 9:24 am on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>What I have been noticing is far too much weight being given to .co.uk and .ca sites in the USA serps.

How do you access US Serps? - I can only access .com - which obv. should not be just for US serps or weighted in favour of US sites either - I cant access Google.us - it redirects to Google.com

I am saying this a bit tongue in cheek - of course a certain amount of local biased can take place in .com based on IP address - but .com is not for US sites.

Miop

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Msg#: 33045 posted 1:47 pm on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Which DC's are now BD? I can't tell (canonical pages appear split 50/50 between two pages across the DC's with some DC's not showing improvements at all) and it seems to have ground to a halt for ages for my site...

g1smd

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Msg#: 33045 posted 1:50 pm on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

The [sf giants] query is a good clue that you might be looking at BD results, but it is not a 100% certain test.

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