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Google Datacenters Watch: 2006-01-30
Observations, Analysis and Remarks

 3:55 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

This is just odd.

The 64.* DC's return about 300 pages from my site.

The 216.* DC's return about 46,000 pages from my site.

And the 66.* return 69,000 pages from my site.

Currently I have about 65,000 pages.

If I go to google.co.uk I get 46,000 pages. If I go to google.com from my US based server I get the same 46,000 results.

It is all very odd and confusing.

[edited by: tedster at 9:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 30, 2006]



 3:57 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see the the same results on


As I do on google.com/.co.uk

I am most confused about the page difference between the 64.* set and the 66.* set.


 5:02 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Seeing Big Daddy on www.google.com.au (

It seems to have a pretty small index of my sites compared to non-BD...

They definately need the crawlers to donate some more crawl data.. the non-BD dc's are showing much larger/fresher index data for all my sites

Its especially apparent on my new site :
BD-184 Pages and has been all for weeks
NON-BD with 694 Pages indexed as new as a day or so ago

This is pretty much the same I have seen at for the last week or so..

Anyone else got BD on their google.com.xx?


 6:05 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am in China now,it seems BigDaddy show up in midnight and stay for 1 hour then gone. This situation has been for one week.


 7:36 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am in China now,it seems BigDaddy show up in midnight and stay for 1 hour then gone. This situation has been for one week.

would be interesting to know how BD performs for China, pls keep us posted


 8:10 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I just got a single hit from google page 1 for my main keyword as before 302 google problems, at that time I was no1 on page 1, nice to see but I dont ley to much on it yet.

One more thing PLEASE reduce the site count topics and now BD is there now there,lets talk when there is something new, of cause the page count is a little messy in such a progress dont think about that yet, if say 0 pages then you have a topic and if BD is there or here dossent matter only when we see a more permanet google.com placement, also ranking is interesting but non yet.


 10:22 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Maybe the switched them off but I am not seeing BD on:

As reported earlier these Data Centres are live with Big Daddy - I just re-tested with sf giants.


 12:07 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

I for one am extremely looking forward to Matt Cutt's BigDaddy update (no not that kind of 'update' :)) later on this week. Truthfully for the searches I am tracking the current SERPs are the WORST I have ever witnessed, on any SE.


 12:40 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think it will happen within the next 7 days.

Seeing some weird shifting, but at tthe same time nothing dramatic. However, I think the shifting is more intense andI have not caught it yet.

I say this because I have made more today from my referrals than the last 2 weeks combined, either MSN and yahoo are beating google in searchers, or something else is going on..


 2:50 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

When I wake up this morning,I found BD. The indexed page of one of my sites jumped from 77 to 17,700 but another one droped from 168,000 to 207.
The problem is 207 is not the result I got from,so where is this 207 from?
I noticed the ip varied from , to


 4:47 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

A note from the Google Forum Charter [webmasterworld.com]

Here are some quick guidelines as to post types and phrases that
might trigger an action or prevent a pre-moderated post from being approved:

Is this the update - has the update ended or - when will the update start?

So let's stick to watching the Data Centers, thanks.


 7:07 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

The Wealth of WebmasterWorld Library

Good morning Folks

We live to learn, share and make friends..

Among the thing which keep facinating me about WebmasterWorld community is the rich information which has been made available for webmasters worldwide.

The more you learn how to search for materials on WebmasterWorld the more you admire those generous webmasters who contributed valuable info within hundreds, maybe thousands of threads.

IMO, the best and shortest way to be a good Google Datacenters Watcher is to study previous updates threads. For example threads related to Allegra, Bourbon and Jagger updates. There you can study how to identify pre-updates signes and indications. And its really facinating readings. Very recommended readings indeed.

Personally, I pay attention to any set/group of DCs which start to show different search results than the rest for my test keywords and keyphrases. Here is today's "harvest ;-)


Wish you all a great day and a friendly discussion.

God bless our WebmasterWorld community


 8:09 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Still no sign of a switch over to BD on AOL.co.uk. There were flashes of it about a week ago and that gave me the impression that the change would soon follow, but it soon disappeared not to be seen since.

In the past I've definately seen AOL results change prior to an accross the board update on all home page DC's.

All the best for a profitable day

Col :-)


 9:42 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Today I am seeing pre-jagger results with fresh cache dates in some the DC's. Anyone over here noticing the same?


 10:06 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

whats DCs are showing pre-Jagger?


 11:32 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Certainly seems that something is shifting my refs from google have tripled in the last couple of days.


 12:16 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

On this data center it was showing me pre-jagger results []

Now its back to normal results.


 3:34 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone else see canonicalization issues being resolved with BD outside of the www/non-www issue?

I have a rather large site where writers post their writings. Because many of the writers post their articles on other sites as well, I'm sure that Google has a hard time knowing which URL to return in their results if two URL's contain very similar content (the original definition of canonicalization).

My site has had a steady increase of traffic nearly every day since BD started rolling out across the DC's. Given that BD is not an update, I don't see any other explanation for my increase in traffic other than G has decided to show my URL instead of others. This is certainly not something I'm complaining about as traffic from G is now up 110% from 3 weeks ago.

Just wondering if anyone else is seeing anything like this in BD?


 3:56 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone else see canonicalization issues being resolved with BD outside of the www/non-www issue?

Yes, all of my websites are fixed and I see no canonicalization. I did have to clean up some old links and pages that are no longer in service with the roll back of the index with the google url link removal.


 4:11 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

dataguy & trinorthlighting

For how long you have had canonical problems?


King of all Sales

 6:06 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing very different results on [] and two other dc's.


 6:08 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing Big Daddy results on AOL.co.uk again (see earlier comments). [aolsearch.aol.co.uk...] shows the "sf giants" test clearly working.

Addition: Have checked again and results are switching back and forth, so nothing solid yet ... but the signs are good for the 2nd Feb ;-)


 6:33 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am getting [www...] .sfgiants.com/ as the result from your link so its gone away again.

Probably switching around like google.co.uk has all month.


 6:36 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

For how long you have had canonical problems?

I would have never said that I had canonicalization problems, certainly not the www/non-www type of canonicalization problems.

We've enjoyed good rankings for many of our pages but with BD many more of our pages are ranking well. My theory is that since our site has been around longer than most of the others that have similar content, our pages are now out ranking theirs. I don't know how else to explain that BD has boosted our traffic so greatly.


 6:52 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Briefly saw BD in Boston for the first time.


 7:07 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

We've got it here right now in Rochester, MN in the regular search results.


 7:44 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Got Big Daddy right here in Cape Town and might I add, it was very warm and sunny here today...



 7:45 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)


I had the issue for a few months now. I still am not getting my full site indexed though. One thing I am noticing is that the pages that are not being indexed are the pages I have in froogle and googlebase. Now a very interesting thing I noticed today was when I did a search for a product on one of google's data centers. The first result listed as such:

Product search results for LED MR-16
12 LED MR 16 - $18.62 - Tri North Lighting
24 LED MR 16 - $31.92 - Tri North Lighting
Mr-16 Mr16 Lampholder Led Bulk Pack 50 Count - $79.00 - Paranoic Shopper

Below that it listed information about LED - MR-16 bulbs and not products for sale....

Now I looked at these links and they were all froggle links. We all know that google wants to seperate products for sale versus information about topics. I have noticed a huge surge in traffic today via the froogle links. I would say that there are some large changes in the structure happening. I am glad I have 100% of my items for sale listed in froogle and google base....


 11:11 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Interesting to note that on [] the SERP's are showing ALL URL's relating to many keywords from a single site, whereby normally there may be a main URL with one single indented URL. I have seen examples of 15 URL's listed simultaneously for one website, with a main URL, followed by 14 indented inner pages.

I have also noted that other URL's that were there previously for the same keyword, in prime position [first page], no longer exist. One example of this was an auction site that had half of the results for a keyword with only 76 results, belonging to them. The URL's were listed with this keyword, but in different geographical areas. Now they have all gone.


 11:39 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Read on a blog that Matt Cutt's is supposed to be on a webmaster FM something or other tonight at 7:00 Eastern. They listed BigDaddy as a possible topic.

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