| 5:20 pm on Dec 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
oddsod, you don't have much experience dealing with DDOS attacks, do you?
Because it's obvious what is happening. The Googleplex is rejecting searches that match the pattern coming from the owned machines. That does two things: speeds up the Googleplex, and gives some measure of protection to the forums that were being attacked. And it doesn't hurt real surfers.
Whether it hurts Googlemancers is ... not a consideration.
| 5:23 pm on Dec 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
hutcheson, I'm offended. You think I'm a machine and not a real searcher? ;)
I appreciate the problem, it's happened before, it'll happen again. But real searchers are getting the error message which message is not just restricted to php type queries typical of webmasters. My wife's just complained because she couldn't get to a forum she's forgotten the URL for. Trust me, she's real :). But, more crucially, she thinks she's got a virus on her machine. Google said so.
| 3:07 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
You are getting the Error Message because the format of YOUR request is exactly the same as the format used by machines that DO have the virus, scumware, script or whatever it is that Google is trying to protect itself from.
Google can't tell whether you really have the problem or not, but to them you are sending the same request as people that ARE known to have that problem - hence it takes the same action.
| 5:14 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
>> hence it takes the same action
That's the not very smart part. There is a good word for when you're not 100% sure about something: may. As in "There may be a virus on your computer". Wordtracker says that the word "forum" is searched for over 10,000 times a day. Imagine how many times it's searched for in Google. Add that to the all the searches for all the other stop words. How many million people did Google alarm unnecessarily by stating as a matter of fact that their computers were infected?
<edited to delete a word repetition>
[edited by: oddsod at 5:30 pm (utc) on Dec. 21, 2005]
| 5:25 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I can understand your point about assuming that the searcher has a virus may panic people, but it's always easy to give google a hard time for this kind of thing, even when they are trying to sort out a hornets nest with all the webwasters, scammers & spammers out there.
I think that if you can't get any joy searching on google try some other search engine that doesn't wind you up so much (Meant in the nicest possible way & not at all badly). Let's face it ... google's only one of hundreds of search engines out there and not even that good since they banned my site ;-)
All the best
| 5:28 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
You convince the wife!
| 9:17 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Google can't tell whether you really have the problem or not, but to them you are sending the same request as people that ARE known to have that problem - hence it takes the same action. |
Gee, I'm glad they don't do anything more drastic, like report the person to the federal authorities or something. :)
| 9:33 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Notice that I didn't say the same "search terms" but instead I said: the same "request" - meaning the same Google search URL, in the same format, with the same search parameters, included with whatever the search terms are.
The word "forum" isn't the important part of the search itself, but rather the whole URL query string that your browser is sending, including all the hl and num and filter and meta etc parameters that are also included.
| 5:45 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Why the message? If you are a robot, you won't read it. If you're not a robot, it's highly unlikely your computer has been compromised.
It's like the medieval times. She drowned, so she must be innocent.
| 6:17 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)|
LOL! I'm kicking myself that I didn't see the logic flaw earlier, Powdork.
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