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Update Saga. Part 6
selomelo




msg:719571
 6:25 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



Continued from:
[webmasterworld.com...]


The same down-and-on problem here in Turkey.
But j3 goes on and off. No steady results. At least three different sets:

216.239.63.104 (I think with additional tweaks)
64.233.161.104 (still J2)
64.233.179.104 (J3)

 

lee_sufc




msg:719601
 8:18 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

scrap my last post - some of the DCs are showing the good results again! this time, there are some different ones - ie: [64.233.161.105...] - what is going on?

GG - if you're reading, is this Jagger3 with flux or something else?

steveb




msg:719602
 8:20 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, seeing it now too. Different DCs than before. Let's hope it managed to stick this time... and then of course build on it since it is only a partial measure.

reseller




msg:719603
 8:34 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

As most of you have noticed, there is a FLUX on most of the DCs at present.

However, for those who are affected by canonical issue, I see on all DCs my homepage at the top when run command site:

And I know, GG replied when I asked him about the same, that they list pages in random when run site: . However, it isn't random for my site anymore (regarding homepage at top of site:)

Dayo_UK




msg:719604
 8:39 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am on position 2-5 on DCs for my homepage :( - for my main site - this is all DCs.

However, a minor site is position 1 on some DCs - but not including the original J3 DCs :/

reseller




msg:719605
 9:05 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Dayo_UK

>>I am on position 2-5 on DCs for my homepage :( - for my main site - this is all DCs.<<

Maybe the next update primo Feb 2006 shall bring you and steveb better news.

Stay tuned :-)

mgpapas




msg:719606
 9:10 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well whatever google is doing I hope they keep doing it. I just moved up 42 positions to page one on a very high profile key phrase that I thought I would never have placement for.

I'm tempted to celebrate but give the fast that my former #1 site dropped off the radar back in september means all I can do for now and maybe forever is hold my breath :-(

reseller




msg:719607
 9:13 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Matt "Inigo" Cutts went to Kentucky on a Thanksgiving holiday for a whole week! No weather report is expected at present (:(

How could those rich north americans afford that? and then they take soon a X-Mas holiday too. Can you imagine?

Furthermore those american always sleep at the wrong times while we in Europe work :-)

seosutra




msg:719608
 9:23 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

can you explain the following:

data center: [66.102.9.104...]

Search Term : Keyword Phrase One (2 words)

#1 site: PR4
Title : None of the key words in the phrase inclided
<META NAME="VW96.objecttype" CONTENT="Keyword Phrase One, and a few more keywords, key phrases">
<META NAME="DC.Description" CONTENT="Keyword Phrase One, and a few more keywords, key phrases">
Site Content : Mentions the key phrase once
Site URL: Does not have the key words included (note, its an index page)

important thing is, content on this page is only rougly related to the keyword phrase we used.

#2 site: PR3

Title: Keyword phrase One, Keyword phrase 2, Keyword phrase 3
<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="Keyword Phrase One, and a few more keywords, key phrases">
Site Content : Mentions the key phrase a few times... also in H1 tag
Site URL: [thesitename.com...]

This is inner level page with PR3... index page has a PR4. The content on this page is puerly relater to keyword phrase we use...

Result: doesnt appear in the top 30 pages

Site is not blacklisted...

site does get listed for some other key words... any particular reason for this to happen?

kperr




msg:719609
 9:29 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Site traffic here has benefited significantly from Jagger -- so far.

And, according to the new G Analytics world map, visitors seem to be far more globally dispersed than before Jagger.

Hmmmmm...even got a visitor from Norwich this morning.

zikos




msg:719610
 10:00 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Site traffic here has benefited significantly from Jagger"
Here too as well +130%

taps




msg:719611
 10:13 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see more serps for my site. Traffic however did not increase significantly. There is still a lot flux to do. Seems as if some areas are not yet fluxxed.

Kangol




msg:719612
 10:18 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

[64.233.161.105...] is giving fair results.
Will it stay?

There is something I can't figure it out. I have pages with low competition, basically if you would create a page on topic you should rank in top 20.

What I do not understand is why for some of my site pages I rank and for some is impossible to rank even in top 100?

I am talking about pages with almost no competition.

lee_sufc




msg:719613
 10:24 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Kangol - i, like you hope that is how Google will look...can't see it though!

zikos




msg:719614
 10:28 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Seems as if some areas are not yet fluxxed. "
I agree ,the search terms that I am slowly recovering have all fresh cache.That probably means that after Google makes a huge crowl the flux will bring more dramatic changes in the index.

taps




msg:719615
 10:38 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

yep - Googlebot is quite active. Hit 20.000 times yesterday.

Block19Row13




msg:719616
 11:07 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

ive trawled this discussion and searched for my site accross loads of DC's and we are finally showing.

we are on pages 5 and 6 for most things, but once you whittle it down to .co.uk, then results within uk it's so much more positive.

we seem to be re-couping our positions, but, im not counting those chickens yet!

zikos




msg:719617
 11:24 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Block19Row13 do you think we have hopes?

bekyed




msg:719618
 11:31 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

On this data center 66.249.93.104 showing in the UK, we are in the top 10 for all of our keys.
Anyone else seeeing this?
Bek.

lee_sufc




msg:719619
 11:35 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

bek - the results on that DC are excellent but i don't think these are going to be used...shame though!

RichTC




msg:719620
 11:48 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Those Dcs have far to much weight being given to directory sites and very old sites that may not be relevent to the search term.

In the sectors we watch we see far to much of this issue since Google tweaked the Algo for the J3 roll out. Just prior to this at J2 the results were fine.

I see some good results but mixed into them are old directory and old non relevent sites that need removing to clean the serps up

bekyed




msg:719621
 12:07 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well we dont know this yet Lee.
Fluxing is still going on, we can only see when the serps have settled down.

Bek.

taps




msg:719622
 12:21 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

For the terms I watch it seems like Jagger 3 has propagated to all DCs. Maybe the update is over - the rest is flux.

like2golf




msg:719623
 1:01 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maybe the update is over - the rest is flux

Agreed.

JuniorOptimizer




msg:719624
 1:04 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I notice the cleanest results I've ever seen using the site: command. No url onlys for me at all.

McMohan




msg:719625
 1:15 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have something interesting to report here. A site that I stopped promoting more than a year ago has popped from 100+ position pre-Jagger to #3 for a very competitive keyword. Google shows the dmoz title, which has the keyword in title, which is not there in the page title. A case of keyword in dmoz title, makes you a winner with Jagger, I guess. Anyone wants to see the site, please sticky me.

lufc1955




msg:719626
 1:19 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can anyone explain why I get consistent results and great listings for our site when I check individual ip addresses for the datacentres, but when i check google.co.uk I get completly different results?

Dayo_UK




msg:719627
 1:24 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

lufc1955

Your site is a .net isnt it?

Where are you hosted? - Really need to be hosted UK to get UK listing if you are not a .co.uk.

stateless




msg:719628
 1:52 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)


"Can anyone explain why I get consistent results and great listings for our site when I check individual ip addresses for the datacentres, but when i check google.co.uk I get completly different results? "

I mentioned this point earlier. When I check the google.co.uk IP in firefox and use the IP I have slightly different results than when I type in google.co.uk . The results I get by going directly to google.co.uk do not match any of the datacentres, regardless of whether I choose world or UK only sites.

Block19Row13




msg:719629
 2:07 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

stateless....

i found this too, if i search using my G toolbar i get one set, then i go to that data centre its all different.

my site performs better when i search through my G toolbar, and when i search direct from the DC we are down a few pages.

which is better than last week when our results were no where to be seen.

lee_sufc




msg:719630
 2:08 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

stateless - i just noticed that.

currently on .co.uk, for one of my keywords, I am #18, when I ping .co.uk, I get [216.239.39.104...] and on that DC, for the same keyword, I am #4

WHAT IS GOING ON?

Gimp




msg:719631
 2:10 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Folks, it is all meaningless. Until things stablize and until they are done tweaking and testing, this is all just mental masturbation.

Sit back, watch and have another cup of coffee. The more coffee the better. It will wind your nerves up so you will really get excited when this stabilizes and the fat man sings.

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